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I got mine years ago for $15 before they had a name.

I agree, not JABO. Alley, early.

I keep missing this one on Tuesday. Here's a group of Rootbeer floats

The OP marble is a Vacor Orca.

I disagree with the description above from Bill's site (various opaque colors on the outside). The marble should have red to yellow and any shades in between with possibly some white on the outside and clear inside matching the rest of the description from there. They are also larger marbles, around 3/4" give or take. If the outer colors are not red to yellow, then they are not windshields.

A little pink came from all the Alley sites. Always something interesting with marbles!

Dave the ones you posted earlier aren't from the blush line, they are later marbles from St. Mary's. Usually more of a creamier base, often going to grey or tan. Chad I was wrong, I went and looked at my Champs and I do have one. Hard to keep up with my marbles anymore. I'm trying to amass as many marbles as I can so that when I start losing them, it will take a long time before anyone notices lol.

I remember that red cloud moment Chad. I still don't have one. I think they must be a bit harder to find. Here's my contribution for the day, a few hours late EST. Pink on brown Sistersville Alley.

The OP marble is not a windshield nor Peltier. If it's an old marble It's Master. IMO Glass looks better than I'd expect for Vacor so it may just be a nice big bright Master. The sunsets vary a lot and some look very much like Masters as well.

They are Vacor for sure but I don't keep up on the Vacor names.

I agree that the German does look polished from the one view. If so, it's not worth much of anything.

Jabo from here.

To me there is nothing there with much value at all. Modern stuff and one common type German handmade. I don't think I would give more than $20 for it all and would probably pass on it at that. For a new collector it might be more attractive.

Put me down for PPP.

Thank you for sharing this. I have some factory Akro boxes, I hope tonight to have some time to check out each marble and pay more attention to patterns that reflect anything related to this discussion.

Thank you for that drawing and technical description John, it was driven like a snowblower! I didn't know that drawing existed, now I don't have to imagine how it must have been driven. Unfortunately now I have no idea how half seem to be right and half left again other than the two operating opposing each other theory mentioned above. Any drawings or technical data recorded in that regard?

I don't have a pic on file. I'm not sure where the marble is but I'm sure I have it. Super busy right now but I'll try to dig it out in the next few days.

I think I saw that drawing wrong. The spinner cup is sitting on the gear, not on the end of that angled rod coming up from the lower right. I was thinking that was what was driving the cup one way or the other but maybe not? If not, then what I had envisioned is probably not possible. But still, I think the cup went one way, then reversed, and back and forth all day in order for there to be an equal amount of left and right twists plus ones that are messed up. I came to that conclusion years ago when I found a corkscrew that switched direction dead center and went from right twist to left halfway through the marble. Could be wrong.

You know how so many Akro corks are what we call "messed up corks"? I assumed that the spinner cup was gear driven, a simple mechanism with a round pinion gear on the spinner cup shaft with a long bar with teeth on it that pushed out one way, then pulled in, then pushed out, spinning the cup both ways, like the long rods that connect one wheel to another on a steam locomotive, back and forth as the wheel goes round. If that was the case, the spinner cup would spin one direction, then reverse to the other direction an equal amount of time. A "messed up" cork would be one that hit the cup as it changed direction. Just my theory and the way I had it pictured in my mind.

Thanks Chad!

Heaton with AV

Some were. Not that many but a handful.