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Interesting to say the least, The #10 Master Marbles box also has "Ringer" Rules on the back and they look to be the same print. I do not have one to show so I hope that someone does. Marble--On!!

OK--you asked for it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvAnQqVJ3XQ Peaches--On!!!

So, As I often do, I researched the ink used on this box in-house under a variety of close intense observation methods and lighting. Behold—these marbles light up very nicely under UV light—not what I expected, I should have known better. I research the box and not the marbles. Check yours out and give the results please. My images do not do justice to the glow. I have several of this type of box without the “Victory” stamp with different types of marbles and they all light up like a “pre-war” marble should. These boxes may be older than previously thought. Research rules and Marble—On!!

OK, So I discovered what the weird ink reminded me of on this “Victory Box”--- mimeograph. Here is a flat or unused version of the original box before the letters were applied. I do not see this going through any type of a mimeograph machine—it is just too thick—the box would not have survived without a bend in it. It is still a possibility though depending on the size of the roller. I checked out the letters and the alignment of such from box to box that we have been provided with here and on the net and it looks like they all came from the same typeset. I do not think that a “hand stamp” was used and the letters may have been silkscreened on the flat boxes. Probably quite difficult to do with an individual box like the one that I have shown. The dimensions between the letters seem to be consistent although they are in a variety of positions in the boxes diamond areas. The ink quality/color may have been a sign of the times. I have a few more discovery’s to share on this subject---- Marble—On!!

I have seen these actually sell for more than that--I just got luckey and I am sure that second hand stores and rummage sales have them at an affordable price. $275 will buy a lot of peaches. "Millions of Peaches, Peaches for me"--sorry, now that song will be stuck in all of your heads for a day or two. Marble--On!! and Peaches on for sure!!

There were a few different versions of the Akro "Victory Pouch" The one that I think is the most rare is the one with Morse Code Below the big “V”, dot dot dot dash for V. I think that it is hard to determine which box these really belonged in. I have seen them in many different types of Akro boxes. Any info on this will most definitely fit into this topic as well as any insight into the Vitro Victory Net Bags. Marble—On!!!

I saw the same post as I was researching this box Al and I am glad that you bought it up. For me to ID a Jackson would like me growing pineapple in my Wisconsin garden--just isn’t happening. I did think HMMMM I wonder though—maybe I should try Pineapple. I also saw one identifying them as 40’s vintage—I dismissed that as well. There are enough of these boxes held in collections to raise the issue. I am sure that everyone that has one has wondered about them—time to rattle the tree. Lets hear more! Marble—On!!

Top Notch!

Well, I am not so sure about the marbles being "newer"--they are a far cry from the run of the mill "all reds" that we are all familiar with. I would not consider these to be a "brushed patch" or a "veneered patch". There is some depth to them that cry's out "I am older" to me. I have little doubt that these boxes were "doctored", by whom and when is the question really. It took some thought to place the stamped letters as they are. Perhaps they were over printed flat before they were filled. Post yours for comparison please. I will put them under the scope and get back to this subject. Marble--On!!

I think that wvrons may have a bigger one, maybe he will follow up with his own side by side---I hope to see it anyhow. Marble--On!!!

Here is an image of a smaller Heaton box that is in reconstuction mode vs a #5 Master Glass flat--(unused) They are pretty close but the Heaton is a tad larger. Marble--On!! and box reconstruction on as well!!!

I hate to disagree with the ID on the last one or the "outlier". I have seen enough Akro oxblood patches to see this as one and call it one. The Ox Patches that Akro made really have no ryhme or reason to them and I would not doubt that this was one given that I have been trying to backfill some boxes with them for that last two years and have seen many variations. Some of them are great and some of them really suck--The nature of Oxblood is what I suspect---it really does what it wants to. IMHO, Marble--On!!

Ok, Victory I like—Fakes I do not. Here is another box that grabs me by the ears. It is a kind-of common box that has been altered with the” Victory Marbles” stamps. I know that I have seen one or two of these before so it is not a one-off. I believe that these are Vitro marbles with a lean towards Akro---well I think that they are Vitro and wish that they were Akro, let me come clean on this. Give me your opinions positive or negative—I like them all. Marble—On!!

Chalkies are very cool for sure and I have always wondered what makes them like they are. Any explanation would be appreciated. Marble--On!!

The confetti marbles are very nice and I have not seen such with the confetti on the exterior like these, almost Barney Rubble like. There are a few other Vacors in this lot but--- The top three starting at 12:00 going counter clockwise, look like a Peltier Ketchup and Mustard, an Akro Corkscrew and either another Corkscrew or a Peltier Tiger. Nice mixed lot for sure, Marble—On!!

That is a nice group and"Smitty" looks like he knows it. Marble--On!!

Hi Bill, I do not have a #10 and I am wondering what it says on the side of the box. The #5's that I have say Master Glass Co on the edge. I have read that the new company copied the #10 which had the original company name on them and made the #5 to look the same only smaller. Thanks and Marble--On!!

Yes quite different, The closest that I have is a "dark red zebra" and that is not really that close--just a strange one that was along with a bunch of Millers that I came in contact with many moons ago. Marble--On!!

Well, it is both transparent and white in a mix lets say. Backlit it will not shine through but on the edges it will. A strange mix for sure and very hard to get a correct image of. There is clear and there is white in a very strange way that are kind of mixed together.

This Pelt is 11/16" and one of my favorites to look at. It looks like it may be opal but it is hard to tell with the almost oxblood in the way of the light. Marble--On!!!

I think that this may be a Chinese torchwork marble at 5/8" but it seems a bit refined---tell me what you think. I know that some of these are really nicely made and probably made by an advanced worker , but who knows for sure. Marble--On!!

3/4" Killer for sure---- Marble--On!!!

I call these clear woodies , what are your thoughts? ---9/16” Nice too look at for sure. Marble—on!!

Thanks for that Ron--join the club. I am not big on names either--I do remember faces though. Marble--On!!!

I would say not Akro due to the bubbles in the marble. Green in all makes of marbles is the most common color to show AV which is unintended. Akro made very few marbles with purpose to show AV and I am not sure if they ever intended any. Master Marble and Master Glass both had marbles with bubbles in the glass as did Peltier. This marble looks like it may be Opal as well. It could be a "dug" or "experimental" Akro but I have not seen any with bubbles in the glass like this from any digs. Just because of the glass I might lean toward Peltier but that is a modest lean. Marble--On