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IMO Accidental, whatever it is

That was never a marble box. Until this year.

If you look close at the feathered slags 2 seams can usually be found(machinemade) The Cerise and other earlier Pelt slags often appear handgathered

------Gropper and Peltier disolved their partnership in 1931. They were together from the time Peltier started making marbles. It seems Gropper had an office at the Ottawa site. Except for possible stock Gropper had stored somewhere, Peltier removed the Gropper name from publications and packaging that year.

I like using the opaque crystalline trait as my dividing line. I would give good odds though that within the next 20 years anything red will be Oxblood. Heck because of ebay its almost like that now.

I am just saying that it is what makes The early German MFC and Akro Ox, Oxblood glass different than Oxblood colored glass. And what I(and many others)find a good description and dividing line as to what is really Oxblood glass and what isn't. It can be seen under high magnification. and occasionally in good sunlight on some Oxblood without magnification. It looks like superfine aventurine. It appears others just consider any darker red-brown glass Oxblood. Thats their decision. It is a bit like what makes aventurine aventurine. Some folks call any sparkly stuff in a marble aventurine. some others don't consider the chunky debris that can be sparkly aventurine. No big deal. We are just talking about little glass balls made for kids.

The machines at Jabo are considered single stream machines. And all the marbles that come out of them are single stream marbles. All the glass is melted in one furnace and one stream comes out of that furnace. Yes some colors are put into seperate crucibles in the one futnace but all the glass mixes in that one furnace and there is only one stream. And if you want to consider Oxblood only a color please feel free to do so. But there are many marble collectors that believe Oxblood is a type of glass not just a color. Brian does a great job of describing it here what is oxblood glass Cateyes and Corkscrews are a good example of a multiple stream marble as are many Peltiers Seperate furnaces or divided furnaces, separate streams brought together out side of the furnace to form the marbles. here is a two stream setup. Swirls are and will always be single stream marbles. It is not how the glass is mixed in the one furnace that determines single or multiple stream marbles. When and if the streams from separate sources are brought together outside of the furnaces determines single or multiple stream, always has always will. And I propose that you shouldn't be telling me what I should or shouldn't be reading or what I should or shouldn't be posting. Why not just post your opinions and not attack mine.

MFC had a formula for the glass we now call Oxblood Glass. Akro had a formula for this glass. Obtained from MFC. This formula probably originated in Germany as some early German handmades contain true Oxblood Glass. Many of us only consider certain glass True Oxblood Glass. It is not a color to us. It is a type of glass. And microcrystalline copper is what determines it being true Oxblood glass. It has also been made by reheating certian types of glass(goldstone) in the new Jabo runs. Lots of folks now call lots of red-brown glass Oxblood. It just is not Oxblood glass to many people. And calling any dark red brown stripes etc on a marble Oxblood to make a sale on ebay is a sales ploy. Not a true desription IMO. Where does one draw the line as to what is Oxblood glass, To many including myself it will always be the microcrystalline copper.

Didn't feel a thing here. I actually like feeling the quakes. It kind of puts things in perspective. Of course sometimes that feeling only comes around after checking my shorts!! 89 was big enough to run out of the house.

Gotta agree. both ends open= POLISHED In every marble like it I have seen in hand.

Please feel free to use my photos for whatever you want. Glad they brightened your day a bit.

Weatherman lied. It got to 72 so I walked the yard and snapped a few more pics.

I believe it is contemp as the others in post #2 are.

I am really trying to get this weather moved eastward for you folks but it just isn't cooperating. Would you all feel any better if I told you it is only supposed to hit 68 today? Sorry, that really was kind of mean.

My back yard today. It only hit 70 degrees. I am so glad to be home. You folks can have that white stuff.

Great fun, great marbles. Ron was scooping up the Alleys so fast the oxygen content in the room got dangerously low!!!!

Yea, but they were the best darn group of Imperials and Vacors at the show. Great report Joe!! And maybe the best show I have ever attended!!!!!Of course seeing (and buying a lot of CACs had a lot to do with it!!

Just my opinion, but having seen some real ones this one just screams new to me.

New and poorly done IMO. The Top and bottom aren't even close to what they should look like if Vintage.

And when told the marble he has listed is polished he usually says thanks mentions bad eye sight but does not change the listing. He has been selling polished stuff for years with no mention of polishing. Always buyer beware.

And just imagine there were a lot more feeding and shearing setups than the type Griff describes. Many had what looked like an actual pair of scissor blades as shears. And on some the glass stream actual traveled over rollers before being sheared. There was an amazing ammount of setups. I just wish someone had the diagrams to show us, as to what the CAC setups(there were several) were like.

Absolutely positively a cullet marble. skoro has always needed glasses when it comes to not Identifying polished marbles and cullet that he sells on ebay. .

Ebay will not and probably can not remove the listing. It says Box of Christensen Agates and basically that is what it is. This is another case of someone spending drcent money on something they must know next to nothing about. Even the minimum ammount of research would tell that as a fake and the seller as a seller of fakes. Although I think Pavcraz is about the lowest form of human life It is the idiots that buy his crap that keep him going. They deserve just as big or maybe a bigger smack than Pavcraz. Yea, I said it.

Separate black and red ribbons on a yellow base.

You are a very brave man if you plan on spending an hour discussing marbles to a bunch of 70 year olds. I tip my hat to you for your mettle.