cvdv Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Hi Cees,great collection you've got there!! Why do you call them Dutch non glass marbles? winnie Hi Winnie, youre right, most of them are not made in Holland. I think more than 90% of my collection, hand- and machinemade glass also, I've found in Holland, that's why I call them Dutch marbles. Cees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyzora Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Could be, are there only 9 holes on that game board? If from a game itwould make sense if the game board had more holes (same with your pic),but thanks for posting that ziggy. Yes there are only 9 holes. It is not mine, but from ebay 2007. I am guessing the marbles on this one are in the wrong holes and that it is a collectible game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delbert Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 I think someone told me once that those little ivory looking things with numbers were from an old pool hall. They had a leather "bottle" filled with numbered balls that were used for some older pool games. The modern ones are plastic bottles with some kind of plastic numbered ball/shapes. The ones in a leather bottle were called "pills" and had a flat surface where the number was. They were made of the same material as the billiard balls: cycolac which is an imitation ivory composite. Confession: I was a hookie playin' poolhall fan. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Cees, great flowers!! The mottled pottery ones are great!! I think your right about rarety.. They look kinda familiar to me, but I don't know why or where I may have seen one (Probably at Bert Cohen's) If they were made local (by country) and not exported.... They would be really tough to find outside of the Netherlands.... Thanks Sue, the large one of the mottled pottery is called: "Dutch variegated" clay marble, and they also could be found in America, but also there they are rare. Here more Dutch non glass marbles, most of them are "diggers", found at several places in Holland. Cees. Hi Cees, In the first photo, on the right side there are two marbles with large Black Spots on them... One of them has rings around the black spots, and one has only black spots... Now, refering to the one with only the black spots, it has 5 black spots 2 of which seem to be on the poles, and there are 3 spots around the center (equator)... Am I correct??? Can you give me any info on that marble??? I have a twin to that one, and was at a loss with trying to identify it... Thank-You Much... "Gene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronmarbles Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 It is called a "spotted dick". Hi Cees, In the first photo, on the right side there are two marbles with large Black Spots on them... One of them has rings around the black spots, and one has only black spots... Now, refering to the one with only the black spots, it has 5 black spots 2 of which seem to be on the poles, and there are 3 spots around the center (equator)... Am I correct??? Can you give me any info on that marble??? I have a twin to that one, and was at a loss with trying to identify it... Thank-You Much... "Gene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvdv Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Hi Cees, In the first photo, on the right side there are two marbles with large Black Spots on them... One of them has rings around the black spots, and one has only black spots... Now, refering to the one with only the black spots, it has 5 black spots 2 of which seem to be on the poles, and there are 3 spots around the center (equator)... Am I correct??? Can you give me any info on that marble??? I have a twin to that one, and was at a loss with trying to identify it... Thank-You Much... "Gene" The marble with the black spots, without the rings, is indeed called "Spotted Dick", the one with the rings is a "solid" bullseye, a rare type of these kind of marbles. Spotted Dick's were made in Germany (Thüringen), as far as I know, during the late 1800's- early 1900's. I think it's glazed earthenware, not china. Cees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 It is called a "spotted dick". Thank-You Brian... I have since learned of your knowledge... Thank You very much... Just a little funny to list a "Spotted Dick" on eBay... I might have to hold back on that one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Hi Cees, In the first photo, on the right side there are two marbles with large Black Spots on them... One of them has rings around the black spots, and one has only black spots... Now, refering to the one with only the black spots, it has 5 black spots 2 of which seem to be on the poles, and there are 3 spots around the center (equator)... Am I correct??? Can you give me any info on that marble??? I have a twin to that one, and was at a loss with trying to identify it... Thank-You Much... "Gene" The marble with the black spots, without the rings, is indeed called "Spotted Dick", the one with the rings is a "solid" bullseye, a rare type of these kind of marbles. Spotted Dick's were made in Germany (Thüringen), as far as I know, during the late 1800's- early 1900's. I think it's glazed earthenware, not china. Cees. Yes, glazed earthenware... My mib shows a very small nick, with what looks like clay under the glaze... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted February 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Thank you everyone. Any last words before the thread gets tucked away in SH, or I think maybe the Archive now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delbert Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Here's my favorite hand faceted. It's a Carnelian with some very nice effects and kind of rough base faceting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delbert Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 This bullseye is a recent Marblealan auction win, also faceted, but much finer work than my old fave Carnelian agate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted March 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Here's my favorite hand faceted. It's a Carnelian with some very nice effects and kind of rough base faceting. Nifty. And finally a facet I can see in the photo! lol Actually I have proven to myself that I can find facets in hand. But I am FAR from comfortable with them. Wonder if it's possible to SHOW them in pix in a way which agate newbies can understand. I'd heard the advice about looking at how light reflected off them. "Roll them around. And if the reflection jumps they're faceted." But still when I got some in my hand I was expecting something much more jumpy than I saw. I was thinking of something like a quilt of facets. A bunch of tiny flat surfaces all over the marble. But if I recall correctly, what I actually saw was sort of concentric rings of grinding. The reflection would only "jump" when it moved over to the next ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjohn691500 Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 hmmmm i tried and only got this,can you see them?,bj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted March 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 hmmmm i tried and only got this,can you see them?,bj Yes! I can! at least some of them. Very cool! Thanks! Can even see some of the change in the way light reflects. It's uneven at the ridge. nice capture! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I LOVE MARBLES Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 In chronological order clay marbles probably came from the caves with us. Most likely limestone was next, followed by agates, not sure where stoneware fits in the time line (carpet bowls and Penn-Dutch China's) then glass. Have a few more to add to this thread. Second case agates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I LOVE MARBLES Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 If doing a history on marbles stone, China & Bennington pre-date mass produced glass marbles. Still adding limestone, lined crockery, Bennington, carpet bowl and late period China marbles to this thread. Here's another handcut agate, guess will have to start a 3rd case! Love em with rings like this! Thanks Charles (moremarbles4me)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I LOVE MARBLES Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Pretty BIG at 3 7/16" when i showed it to Brian E. after telling me that he & his Mom collected bowls for many years, he said it was the most colors and one of the best patterns on a Mocha Bowl he'd ever seen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I LOVE MARBLES Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 & 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanoak Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 Scott, That's impressive, what a great pattern. I have one but not as busy and only 2-3/16. Do see some very intriguing colors and patterns occasionally but jeez I can't collect everything. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyMarbleBuddy Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 Yes, glazed earthenware... My mib shows a very small nick, with what looks like clay under the glaze... I just received two "spotted dicks" just like the one posted. They came in a lot from England, and I was wondering what they were. There is also one a bit bigger that is black, with white splotches ... more shaped like rain drops or crescent moons. The spots on all three are rather messy both in placement and in shape. Not fine craftsmanship, but at least they have a name (be that as it may)! Thanks for posting the pics~ Ruth oops ... re entered this connecting it to the correct reference part of the thread... sorry, ruth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyMarbleBuddy Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 Hi Cees, In the first photo, on the right side there are two marbles with large Black Spots on them... One of them has rings around the black spots, and one has only black spots... Now, refering to the one with only the black spots, it has 5 black spots 2 of which seem to be on the poles, and there are 3 spots around the center (equator)... Am I correct??? Can you give me any info on that marble??? I have a twin to that one, and was at a loss with trying to identify it... Thank-You Much... "Gene" I just received two "spotted dicks" just like the one posted (spot on each pole and four spots around). They came in a lot from England, and I was wondering what they were. There is also one a bit bigger that is black, with white splotches ... more shaped like rain drops or crescent moons. The spots on all three are rather messy both in placement and in shape. Not fine craftsmanship, but at least they have a name (be that as it may)! Thanks for posting the pics~ Ruth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orbboy Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 Not sure where this one fits in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 Pretty! Wouldn't that be one of the Pennsylvania Dutch types? Never seen one in hand (too big for my self-imposed size restrictions -- thank god) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david Chamberlain Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 Mucho Mocha! David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I LOVE MARBLES Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 Thx David, it is pretty & impressive! Damn Dave (orbboy)!!! Looks like a Pennsylvania Dutch China to me also! Have not seen one look like that though, WOW!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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