marbleus1 Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Alrighty Two years back on another board I tried to ascertain The "value" of these marbles and had concerns over this New Marketing concept (new to marbles) Well in what has become the norm for Jabo discussion I was informed in contentiuos fashion that Market determines Value, hell I knew that and questioned as to the real and hidden agenda for my questions. Market Value, right, but there are many quanifiers and they were absent and after much ado, pretty much remain so. So here I go again The differance I see from the past, is marbles for toys compared to marbles for collectors. Well first would be quality control - for toys quality control was in place, unsuited marbles were culled by the company to whatever standards were in place but they were in place. New Run - NO Company(uniform) Quality control. None I said and will glady explain. The company doesnt own the marbles or the glass. Its as if they have no concerns for the disbursment of this product that bears their name. Within this area and I have talked to Many of the Sellers personally, information varies from source to source. Some say at defensive times the cull is high Mint Value Collector grade mibs 20% - 80% to cull, Other sellers 70% to 80% collector grade marbles. Of course differant runs differant results, doesnt change the point! The expansion of the "asmade Mint" catagorie. heres what happening, grading is subjective at best - and the owners grade and decide whats for sale but no cull, some sellers Mint means mint, they are few. Others asmade mint, others Nm+ on and on. Heres what aint happening no destroyed marbles some sellers selling everything under differant grades some sellers selling only Mint. Whats happening with the cull - Giveaways sure, boxed and left to sit sure(of course at some point this will enter the market weather you or descendants, much if not most cull is bought by other sellers who do not have concerns over what happens to it - its for sale. That means for the most part that every marble made will enter the market. I have them out of round, I have them (sweet Flames) with basically golf ball indents (probably from the extended stretching to produce flames and increased cooling time before rollers) and it aint a few its lots, I have others from sellers as crisp as any makers marble (quality control) it is entirely absent. So as the marbles roll thru the auctions there is no way to tell which is which - will that mean the asmade dented marble is worth the same as my mint Flame? or more likely my mint Flame worth the same as the dented one. I know if your a maker that aint ur concern. I'm a lill confused at this lack of controll on a "collector" grade item, you would think the controll higher than marbles for pennies toys. So market Value and an undefineable large # of marbles. Man it sure looks like its a good thing we collectors know our values or overhype could lead to some large losses. Why should we care, whats wrong with a less than a penny marble selling for $45? I aint answering that one its for you! Ya gonna take this the wrong way but its truth I was so glad I was watching the Dirty Job marble episode by myself, when Mr. McCullogh stood on National TV and stated this marble is worth $300, a marble that still had smoke rising from it(not really, but close) cost at most pennies and could be made at anytime. I would not have been able to explain the factors that drove it and believe It would have cast even more doubt over the basic sanity of a "marble collector" expessly me. when 2+2 aint 4 the equation is out of balance. I know love of the hobby, I know vested interest but before as a entrapenuer you explain the risk and cost of ur ventures let me Tell You as a collector I got about 10 lbs of these marbles they fit in a shoe box - collectors boxes included (not the weight) about 35% are actually mint and I got around $1200 in the game. After you figure a resonably tidy profit on the recapturing of your investment. Thats about in line with what you would think, right, $120 a pound or so. If not, welcome to the what the hell might be the value of these marbles thread. David The cull is high and half of these marbles are not suited for collector sales. Withou quanity and quality control there cant be real value in a collectable it aint 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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