Mike Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 It seems that many companies had the chemistry down for making and using oxblood in the production of marbles. I am beginning to think that there is a whole spectrum of colors that might be called oxblood. I feel like I have seen the real (Christensen & Akro) ox, burgandy ox, chocolate ox, brownish ox, pinkish ox, maybe even a lavender ox and many shades in between. Am I barking up the wrong tree and one must go by a strict definition or is there something to what I just posted? Weigh in please. Sorry but I never figured out the way to put pictures here or I would show some examples but I think there might be others out there who can post variations on the color ox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1DanS Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Not sure if this is what you are looking for, but.................. Some of examples from Akro: thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 http://www.canalfultonglassworks.com/melting_oxblood_glass.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeperman Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 Akro Handmade Alley Peltier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 It seems that many companies had the chemistry down for making and using oxblood in the production of marbles. I am beginning to think that there is a whole spectrum of colors that might be called oxblood. I feel like I have seen the real (Christensen & Akro) ox, burgandy ox, chocolate ox, brownish ox, pinkish ox, maybe even a lavender ox and many shades in between. Am I barking up the wrong tree and one must go by a strict definition or is there something to what I just posted? Weigh in please. Sorry but I never figured out the way to put pictures here or I would show some examples but I think there might be others out there who can post variations on the color ox. Back in the 1800's or early 1900's some of what we call oxblood now would likely have been called other things based on the up close and personal knowledge which people of that era had with the blood of various animals. The French name for oxblood ceramic glaze was "sang de boeuf". Other glaze names were sang de poulet and sang de pigeon (chicken blood and pigeon blood). And then there were less gory names like peach bloom, crushed strawberry, crimson and liver. I looked those up a long time ago and don't remember my sources now but I think those names were all given to different copper-based colors --- the spectrum of what we now might lump under the name oxblood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbobam Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 Great marbles and photos from Dan and Jeeperman. And some likewise great technical stuff from Galen, which, if I'm reading it correctly, would suggest that the answer to your question is "Yes, there's something to what you're saying. But it isn't contrary to the idea of a strict definition." (And some more good info from Steph which must have posted while I was hunting and pecking this message!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTAndrea Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 At one time long ago, there was a very long and heated debate/discussion on Alan's marble board about what constituted "true" oxblood. I wonder if anyone can dig it up. It was one of those controversies that keeps resurfacing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast_dave Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 This one has two shades of oxblood. Very noticeable contrast. This old timer has an almost orange looking shade of oxblood. The oxblood goes subsurface on this one and has a neat effect on the color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbobam Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 More nice mibs! What's the story with the 'Western' marbles? Here are two examples of what could arguably be called the most 'seriously oxblood' Jabo ever. From the Oxblood/Aventurine run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m!b$ Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 Here's a nice one that is for sale: http://www.mibcollectors.com/view_lot.php?marble_lot_id=9988&back_link=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mibcollectors.com%2Fprofiles%2Fmember_info.php%3Fview_member_id%3D38118%26keyword%3D%26keyword_refinement%3D%26exclude_keywords%3D%26photos_only%3D%26individual%3D%26condition_start%3D%26condition_end%3D%26size_start%3D%26size_end%3D%26price_start%3D%26price_end%3D%26status%3D%26orderby%3D10%26offset%3D%26quicksearch%3D%26limit_member_id%3D%26searching%3D%26limit_marble_collection_id%3D%26submitted%3D1&back_link_description= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted November 9, 2013 Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 You are correct Andrea, but it was another lost cause(lol). It is really hard to prove it is, or is not, "True" oxblood glass or not. I do still believe only the German makers, MFC and Akro actually made and used Oxblood glass on purpose. And while much "Accidental" oxblood glass shows up, Alley especially, I believe it was all just accidental occurances. And maybe someday we will even find out Alley did make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucks_mibs Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 Here’s my contribution to the thread…..A “chocolate oxblood” that I seriously regret selling……has an opaque chocolate tan base with strands of grey and white throughout the ox…..The “fold” really put me in the mind of a CAC but I’m pretty sure it was Akro and it was listed as such…but boy doesn’t that turkey curve like a CAC?….Here’s what it looks like in a collection of other Akro oxbloods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jeeperman Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 Second one is a stunner, Galen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeperman Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 Chuck, I feel your pain....that is a beauty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaboo Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucks_mibs Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 Dani, second marble top left, is it similar to the one I posted....if so, do you still have it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaboo Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 Hi Chuck. the big chocolate? yep we still have every single one of the marbles pictured. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1DanS Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 Oh my, those ones we "used" to have................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbobam Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 I like the background in Galen's second photo. Not easy to pull off a fancy background with a fancy subject. But here it actually adds to the marble's 'oomph', rather than being distracting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 Why thanks Bob, even a blind squirrel finds a nut on occasion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'llhavethat1 Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 One of these days I plan to take some new pics and crop but for now this is it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Bump with a Jabo and an Akro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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