MarbleDawg86 Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 Does anyone have a chocolate cow.... Of the peltier type that is! Not the dairy mammal! I think I've got one, but before I post a pic I wanna see some examples. Where they always NLR types or did they also come in the Miller Swirls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 They are brown based (varying shades) with black ribbons. Vacor made one that is sometimes condused for a Pelt, and they often have thinner stripes and look more like a Miller type. If you google image "peltier chocholate cow" there are a variety of good examples (and a few that are not Cows). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibcapper Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 many are lighter based almost showing orange in alot of examples that are considered " cows " by some. dark, chocolaty, with black ribbons, soaked in av. ..... this is the only dark base i have. rest are of the lighter side ... bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Here was a cool side-by-side Carole posted to compare shades, with the Chocolate Cow in the middle. And a sunlight view of hers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleDawg86 Posted August 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Thanks everyone! Mibcapper, those are beauties!!!! Here are the two I have in question...... The one on the left I always assumed was vacor.... until I saw the pics above. The one on the right is a very light brown base, but is definitely not white base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 Not chocolate Cows IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaboo Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 best place to look at examples? www.peltiermarbles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mon Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 With metallic swirl.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 kewl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migbar Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Are you sure, mon ? Peltier black glass is especially susceptible to turning iridescent when buried, and that's what it looks like from here. (Peltier clear glass often turns iridescent, also. In the 1930's some of Peltier's glass formulas had a good percentage of recycled bottle cullet in the batch mix, and as a bottle digger, I wonder if that had anything to do with the iridescence on some colors.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Looks like one of the dug ones Mike but I think that the way the aventurine reacts does make it "Metallic" per se Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mon Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Mig, you are probably correct and I never knew that about Pelt black, thanks! Not only was it dug but also a remelt, ground, polished, glued and made at jabo!!! Steph, haven't forgot and will get them out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migbar Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 I didn't know that iridescence was considered metallic...sorry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Don't be sorry Mikey, You are also correct. I will even call it iridescent when I come visit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 I have seen similar on quite a few dug Alleys, in a variety of colors. On those marbles, it does not seem to be associated with aventurine - more like a chemical reaction with some colorant in the glass. I do not think I have seen it on white or clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 I have seen similar on quite a few dug Alleys, in a variety of colors. On those marbles, it does not seem to be associated with aventurine - more like a chemical reaction with some colorant in the glass. I do not think I have seen it on white or clear. I've seen it on Alleys too. But (so far) only on dark colors, and not in association with aventurine . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 This is a sheen all of its own found on heavy aventurine on dug Pelts from the Ottawa site. It can look like heavy metallic on some of the thick aventurine. There is some lighter less metallic coating on some other dug marbles but this is pretty exclusive to the heavy aventurine striping on dug from Ottawa Peltiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 "pretty exclusive" . . . Do any dug Peltiers without AV show it? I think only a chemical analysis would convince me it's any different than the similar "abalone", "metallic sheen", or "irridesence", or whatever you want to call it, that I've seen on other dug marbles. It's definitely not worth arguing about though, that's for sure. Here's a variety ranging from "sheen" to "metal" Sorry for the crappy pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 I have a few hundred or thousand dug Alleys that have the same looking thing and none of them have any aventurine or it on any aventurine. From mine and others samples the Alley color that seems to have this the most often is the lghter blue and red second. It seems to always follow the swirl pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Very interesting and sure does look somewhat similar on at least one. Might be that color of the striping also has a high metallic content? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 It sure seems like it is a product of a chemical in the glass (maybe one or more colorants) and particular soil conditions, perhaps pH, or some other chemical in the soil. The particular environment of the soil and/or the time the marble has in contact with it might explain the variations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted September 6, 2014 Report Share Posted September 6, 2014 Ric, yes I believe it is a combo of both soil and glass composition. Having been a bottle digger for years I am very familiar with the type of iridescence that is often formed on buried glass. The metallic iridescence I have seen on the aventurine striping of old dug Pelts looks like a slightly different critter to me? But it seems that may just be me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted September 8, 2014 Report Share Posted September 8, 2014 It sure seems like it is a product of a chemical in the glass (maybe one or more colorants) and particular soil conditions, perhaps pH, or some other chemical in the soil. The particular environment of the soil and/or the time the marble has in contact with it might explain the variations. What he ^^^ says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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