lstmmrbls Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Birdcage and Firebush? with 3 painted sulphide birds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Kewl. Yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted December 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Yeppers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Congrats. They're fascinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdesousa Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Wait a minute. Cut or melt a glass paperweight into a sphere and the uncut paperweights become marble related? That's like saying trash cans are beer related because I've seen beer brewed in one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Oregon Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 I think Galen may be referring to the fact that there is a marble that is along the same lines as the paperweight. For example, here is picture of bird cage marble and paperweight. Don't know about the Firebush, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Marbles Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Galen, I got a chipped up dry grinding stone and some sandpaper.... might get it round for you!!! LOL, just kidding. Very nice!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbobam Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Very cool stuff! And given your love of birds, these have to be in your 'prized possessions' category! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spara50 Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 I have owned both a birdcage marble and paperweight. There is NO way to grind the paperweight into a marble. It is way too small. The marble would be 1" or smaller. There is a matching marble to the birds as well. I bought my birdcage from a very old collection of marbles and boxes. The birdcage marble was inside a small box just big enough to hold it. Under the marble was a hand written note that said " Christmas 1936, bought in Chinatown". I have no doubt they (all of the above) are Chinese made and later than German handmades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sissydear Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 Marble and matching paperweight by Scott Young Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted December 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 And I thought you would have known both were also made as marbles Hansel. Happy Holidays, Hope you find some joy this Holiday season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBlock Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 Spara is correct, they are Chinese not German. I have several of the paperweights with the word China scratched on the bottom. The colors are also similar to flat China paperweights of the same time period. They are 1930s. It has been suggested that the birdcage ones are copies of authentic German paperweights. The China trade was very prolific in copying antique paperweights, particularly Sandwich and New England Glass Company florals. However, the clear glass is very obviously Chinese in all of these that I have ever seen, and there are no published accounts of genuine German birdcages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nantucketdink Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 not mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdesousa Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 And I thought you would have known both were also made as marbles Hansel. Happy Holidays, Hope you find some joy this Holiday season. Galen, Why, in a marble forum, would you want to discuss my lack of joy this "Holiday season"? Craig's find of an authentic birdcage marble is (good) news to me. I've seen several birdcage and firebush as well as milifiori marbles that had been cut and/or re-melted from Chinese paperweights and bottle stoppers. Hansel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted December 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 So sorry Hansel, Guess you have enough joy, I can always use more! Everyone smile and be happy. Its that time of year for many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raynsandy Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 Ive made some contemp versions, single color, not much over 1-1/4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ima_ddicted Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 Marbles and paperweights are closely related right? I have always thought so but I could be wrong.Awesome pictures and info. Thank-you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'llhavethat1 Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Supersized onionskin-ish paperweight with bubbles (sorry all, having difficulty with photobucket) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBlock Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 This type is referred to as a Bubble Harlequin Double by paperweight collectors. This is because it has a cushion base layer and then a layer floating above it (and the bubbles reference is obvious). This particular one is German, 1930s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Tangential thought ....When I was trying to understand how we moved from such names as "glass figured marbles" to calling those marbles "sulphides", I got some clues by asking paperweight collectors. I think the evolution of the name happened in their realm, and then we picked it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted December 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 I would agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBlock Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 Paperweight collecting is a much older and longer established hobby than marble collecting. Paperweights were considered works of art long before marbles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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