Classic cut lines and traits. Show us what you have

[akroorka]

If you have any images that you are willing to share of some classic cut lines or traits of a particular manufacturer of the little orbs that we are all addicted to. Please do so.
I was doing some sorting today and found this little orb. I did not think that it was an Akro until I really looked hard. 
The cut lines are classic Akro and the little eyelashes are a trait that others may have but always will point towards Akro. This is not a common one but research paid off.
Give us your best examples of any that you have and lets makes this a great thread.
Marble—On!!
 

[Fire1981]

The “V” cutter pull in one of my favorite traits with Pelts and Vitro’s 🔥

[Fire1981]

Boo Yah 🔥

[Mojo]

These two count i think 

Vacor Frosted Michealangelo 

And a Vitro 

 

[Chad G.]

    Peltier

Classic 6 Ribbon NLR Superman

Classic 6 Ribbon Peltier NLR Ketchup & Mustard

Peltier NLR Zebra (aventurine in the black ribbons)

Peltier Classic 6 ribbon NLR Liberty

Peltier Classic 6 Ribbon NLR Christmas Tree

Peltier NLR Ruby Bee (aventurine in the red ribbons)

Peltier Cross Through Rainbos

Classic Peltier Rainbos'

 

[Chad G.]

Akro corkscrews

Akro Popeyes (Transparent clear base w/ whispy white strands running through it and @ least 2 other colors)

Marble King Rainbows ( Bumble Bees' & Cub scouts)

Nameless Marble King Rainbows

Marble King Blended Rainbow (AKA Spiderman)

Marble King Blended Rainbow (nameless)

[Chad G.]

Dug Heaton

                                                                           Voo-Doo

                                                                          Black Cherries

                                                                                Honey Biscuits

                                                                                  Cucumbers

                                                                            Robins Eggs

                                                                                               RARE          

 

[Carowill]

7 hours ago, Chad G. said:

    Peltier

Classic 6 Ribbon NLR Superman

Classic 6 Ribbon Peltier NLR Ketchup & Mustard

Peltier NLR Zebra (aventurine in the black ribbons)

Peltier Classic 6 ribbon NLR Liberty

Peltier Classic 6 Ribbon NLR Christmas Tree

Peltier NLR Ruby Bee (aventurine in the red ribbons)

Peltier Cross Through Rainbos

Classic Peltier Rainbos'

 

Some sweet Peltiers!

[Nantucketdink]

9 hours ago, Mojo said:

These two count i think 

Vacor Frosted Michealangelo 

And a Vitro 

 

The second one is actually a JABO instead of Vitro.  It’s a good example of a JABO “butt crack” though so that takes care of that Classic pattern. 

[Fire1981]

Sloppy Lobster Tail 🔥

[Fire1981]

Anything Metallic 🔥

[Fire1981]

Drizzle 🔥

[Fire1981]

Green AV!  Anyone know the ID on this one 🔥

[Fire1981]

Bubbles 🔥

[Fire1981]

Lashes 🔥

[cheese]

Master

 

Vitro

 

 

Akro

 

 

[Chad G.]

24 minutes ago, cheese said:

Master

 

Vitro

 

 

Akro

 

 

Thanks Chuck, you get it    

[Carowill]

4 hours ago, cheese said:

Master

 

Vitro

 

 

Akro

 

 

Excellent!

[Nantucketdink]

On 10/27/2022 at 12:20 AM, Fire1981 said:

Green AV!  Anyone know the ID on this one 🔥

That is likely a JABO tankwash 

[Tommy]

Lighton,or Barberton, transitional melted pontil. 

[Chad G.]

                                                                Classic Alley Flame types

                           

                                                                                      Smore

           

[Chad G.]

                         Some Antique Handmade German Indians, these marbles are cane cut.

More cane cut Antique German made marbles, these are called Lattacinio. Named for the weblike structure in the center

                                                                            A closer view of some of the same mibs

                   Another handful of German Handmades showing a variety of different cane cut marbles

 

LINK ::  https://www.marblecollecting.com/marble-reference/online-marble-id-guide/handmade-marbles/

Handmade Marbles

Marble Scissors

 

 

A handmade marble is a thing of beauty, a technical feat of glassworking, and a work of art. While these marbles were made using the “mass production” techniques of the time, in reality each handmade marble is individually crafted by a person. This cannot be said for machine-made marbles. Each handmade marble carries with it the individual stamp of the craftsman who created it. This is in the twist of the marble and in the design and the colors. The appeal of handmade marbles lies in their individuality. No two canes were the same, and no two marbles off the same cane are exactly the same. You cannot say that about most machine-made marbles.

 

By definition, a handmade marble is a marble that was individually made by a craftsman. Non-glass handmade marbles have existed for almost as long as there have been children. During primitive and medieval times, these were rounded stone or clay marbles. This technique continued through the 1800s. Stone and clay marbles do not command a high price today. They lack eye appeal and come in a very limited number of colors and styles, so the supply far outstrips demand. The handmade marbles sought after by today’s collectors were produced in Germany from 1850 until just before World War II. (Some handmade marbles were produced in the United States during the early 20th century, but these represented a very tiny segment of the market compared to German marbles. It has also been reported that some handmade marbles were produced in England, although scant evidence has emerged to support this contention).

 

The marble scissors were invented around 1846 by Elias Greiner in Lauscha. Initially, the scissors were used to produce glass spheres for doll’s eyes. However, around 1850 the first playing marbles were produced. Through the second half of the 19^th Century, a number of marble works were opened in Lauscha by the Greiner, Muller and Kuhnert families. These include Dorfglashutte, Kuhnertshutte, Schlotfegerhutte, Schneidershutte and Seppenhutte. In addition, Eichornshutte was opened in Steinach and Marienhutte was opened in Haselbach.

 

German-made glass marbles represented the bulk of the marble market until the 1920s. The supremacy of German marbles on the playing field finally ended during the early 1900s due to a combination of several factors. These include the American invention of mechanized marble production, the cut-off of German imports into the U.S. during World War I and the Fordney‑McCumber Act tariffs of the early 1920s.

 

All handmade glass marbles have at least one pontil. This is the rough spot at the bottom pole of the marble where it was sheared off its glass cane or a punty.

 

Handmade marbles are generally classified as either cane-cut (sometimes called rod-cut) or as single-gather. Almost all handmade glass marbles are cane-cut type marbles. This type of marble starts as a cane of glass which contains the design of the marble. The end of the cane is rounded, and then the partially completed sphere is sheared off the end of the cane and rounding is completed. Single-gather marbles, on the other hand, are produced one at a time on the end of a punty. The pontils on cane-cut or single-gather marbles may be rough, fire-polished or ground. Handmade marbles can be further classified by the type and/or coloring of the design.

 

The production of handmade marbles (whether cane-cut or single-gather) was very labor-intensive. For example, the creation of a handmade swirl required between four and twelve separate manual steps. Single-gather marbles could require less steps, but only one marble was produced at a time, rather than a whole set of marbles off of one cane. Some of the first handmade marbles produced in Germany were single-gather slag type. These are categorized in the Transitional section. The production of handmade marbles was a fairly laborious task. As a result, far less handmade marbles exist than machine-made marbles, thereby increasing their value.

 

The earliest magazine and newspaper articles discussing marbles appeared in the 1940s. In the mid-1960s articles began describing marbles as collectibles. These articles all dealt with handmade marbles. Early marble collectors were only interested in handmade marbles. The earliest guide to marble collecting was Morrison and Terrison’s Marbles-Identification and Price Guide, published in 1968, followed by Baumann’s Collecting Antique Marbles, published in 1970. Both of these books classified handmade marbles, to almost the complete exclusion of machine-made marbles.

 

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Some Handmade German Sulphides, Unlike the Indians these are "Single Gather marbles" one of if not the earliest form of marble production

 

Info courtesy of the MSCA

LINK ::  https://www.marblecollecting.com/marble-reference/online-marble-id-guide/sulphides/

SULPHIDES

A Sulphide has a transparent base with a sulphide figure inserted inside it. They  are  single-gather, single-pontil marbles.
The  most common figure  found in a Sulphide marble is an  animal. Barnyard animals, household pets, squirrels, and birds  are  most common. Wild animals including razorbacks, elephants, and  lions  are  a little less  common.

Click any marble to see a full-screen image.

Human figures are  more difficult to find. These can  be either full length figures, or busts. Generally, they  are  historical.
Mythical  or  allegorical figures are  rarer  still, as  are  angels. It is generally believed that angels are mourning or remembrance pieces. Angels come in a variety of styles.

There is a  series of  Sulphide marbles that  contain the  individual numerals 0 to 9.  

There are  also  Sulphide marbles with  figures of inanimate objects in them. These are  usually coins, numerals on  disks  or  pocket watches. They  are  extremely rare.Some sulphide  figures  are  painted.  We  have seen figures that are painted (simply or elaborately), as well as painted numerals and inanimate objects. The  value  of these is greatly affected by the  degree of color coverage, the brightness of the colors, and the number of colors used.
A very few sulphide figures have been found in transparent colored glass. A number of shades have been found, including blues, greens, yellows, amethysts, browns, and  pinks.  These are  very rare.
Also,  an extremely few Sulphides have been found with more than one  figure  in them. These are  also  extremely rare.The  value  of a Sulphide is greatly affected by several factors, other than  the  type  of figure  in the  marble. Because the  figures were inserted into the  glass by hand, the  skill of the  maker greatly affected the  quality of the  marble.
Figures that are off-center in the marble can be greatly discounted in value  (by as much as 50%  or more). A figure  can  either be  too  close to the right or left side  of the marble, too high or low, or set too far forward or back.

The  figure  had  to  be  heated to  the  same temperature as  the  glass on  the  end  of the  punty, in order for the  marble to  be  made properly. If the  temperature difference between the  glass and  the  figure  was  too great, then the  marble would shatter when it was  being made. In some cases, the  temperature difference was not  so great that  the  marble would shatter, but rather the figure  would crack  when inserted. Cracked figures discount the  value  of the  marble (by up to 50%).  In other cases, pieces of the  figure  broke off when it was  inserted into  the  glass. This also  discounts the  value.
In some cases, as the figure was being inserted into the marble, some air would be  trapped in the  marble as  well.  A thin  layer  of trapped air around the figure was necessary to achieve a silvery sheen that enhances the  viewing of the  figure.  However, too  much trapped air can  cause so much reflection that the figure cannot be properly seen. Trapped air can  discount the  value  of the  marble by as much as 60%.

Finally, because Sulphides are single-pontil marbles, there is always one pontil on the surface. In some cases, this pontil is ground down. If the pontil is on the bottom pole  of the marble, then the figure can be viewed properly from  all angles. However, depending on the  skill of the  maker, the pontil  could end  up anywhere on the marble in relation to the figure. In some instances, the  pontil  obscures viewing one  side  of the  figure. This can  result in a discount on the  value  of the  marble (up to 40%).

In 1993, a group of Sulphides surfaced that  have become the source of great controversy in the marble collecting community. These marbles have been dubbed “California  Sulphides” because there was  only  one person who  was selling them, and  he  was from  California.  Without getting into the whole history of the events surrounding the introduction of these marbles to the market, it is safe to say that the marble collecting community has  been pretty much divided as to whether these marbles are as old as traditionally known sulphides, or are modern reproductions, or are  older but  not  as  old  as  antique Sulphides. You must reach your own  conclusions as to the  age  of these marbles.

They  can  be  identified by  several features. Many  of them were in colored glass (usually very dark) or a light Vaseline color. Many contained multiple figures (two  or more). Many  were figures that  had  never been seen before (seahorse, lady riding a horse side-saddle, etc.). None of the figures had  a silvery  sheen to them, and  many had  a light rust-red haze on them. Very few of the marbles fluoresced under a black light (traditional sulphides usually fluoresce). Many had either a polished surface or an unpolished surface that  had  many tiny fissures in it when viewed by a 10x lens.

There are  some Sulphides that  have appeared with crudely painted birds in them, usually on  colored glass branches. These are definitively identified as  Chinese, as  the  same figures exist  in Chinese paperweights. They  are  believed to be from  the  1960s and  1970s.

Finally,  a set  of numerals, 0 to 9, was  produced by an  Italian  glass house in the late 1960s and  brought to the U.S. by a New York importer. They  are  easily  identifiable  as contemporary

 

 

[Columbusrockhound]

On 10/26/2022 at 3:13 AM, Mojo said:

These two count i think 

Vacor Frosted Michealangelo 

And a Vitro 

 

The bottom one is a JABO, Inc. Fall 2003 3/4" 'Blue Parrot', Classic, also pictured in the WV Marble Collector's Club website. 'Gallery> Marble identification>JABO, Inc. Classics'