Weird Question

[Kimbernugs]

Is there a reason this Conqueror looks like it was sandblasted? Was it made that way or do you think this is just a result of surface wear? All my others are shiny glass except this one, which looks all frosty.

[Steph]

Time spent in wet environments, such as in an aquarium can give marbles a matte finish.  

[Ric]

I have quite a few of those, I think some of them just came off the rollers that way since I have some in a Tom Sawyer bag. Not sure why they would have that matte finish though.

[Kimbernugs]

I just saw someone listing it as a HTF matte finish, but you know how that goes.

[akroorka]

7 minutes ago, Ric said:

Not sure why they would have that matte finish though.

Agreed I have seen a few of these also.

I just figured that they were found on the beaches of Lake Michigan--Live and Learn!

Marble--On!!

[Ric]

1 minute ago, Kimbernugs said:

I just saw someone listing it as a HTF matte finish, but you know how that goes.

Well, they are certainly uncommon compared to the shiny ones but I don't think they would fit my definition of HTF.

[akroorka]

3 minutes ago, Ric said:

Well, they are certainly uncommon compared to the shiny ones but I don't think they would fit my definition of HTF.

Agreed Ric, as I recall, this is the color combo that I found them in.

Marble--On!!

[Ric]

3 minutes ago, akroorka said:

Agreed Ric, as I recall, this is the color combo that I found them in.

Marble--On!!

I do think that green is most common in that matte finish but I am pretty sure I have others too. I'll dip into the archives and try to post a pic later.

[Kimbernugs]

I just found another in my batch of Conqs - this one in blue. 9/16ths. The matte isn't as prevalent as in the first one, but it's matte fo sho.

[Dave 13]

Hi I got a question was the white seen on these made from batch glass ? if so I got a theory on theses and  ones found with chalk 

[Kimbernugs]

10 minutes ago, Dave 13 said:

Hi I got a question was the white seen on these made from batch glass ? if so I got a theory on theses and  ones found with chalk 

I have no idea what that is, so I'll defer to the experts on that one.

[Chad G.]

48 minutes ago, Dave 13 said:

Hi I got a question was the white seen on these made from batch glass ? if so I got a theory on theses and  ones found with chalk 

Are you speaking of "chalkies" Dave?? if so the white residue on those is lie, used as a fire retardant on the floors of all the vintage marble manufacturers. There's a reason there were so many fires "or not" The chalkies were marbles that hit the floor hot off the roller's and landed in the lie, which stuck to them. I would never have known what was on the surface of a chalkie but Ron @wvrons told me a couple years ago, after of course he had me research it to no end. Many things he taught me I'll never forget, I am truly grateful.

[cheese]

I read somewhere years ago that Vitro put a matte finish on some of their marbles with an acid dip of some type. I have found lots of them mint in every way expect for the matte finish, so it seems plausible or probably likely to me.

 

The chalkies from Alley have chalk all the way through the marble. Whatever is in them came through the tank and orifice. If the chalk flows with the stream, it's from the tank. If it doesn't, it's outside contamination. One easy way to tell how it got there. 

[Kimbernugs]

I have another question about the matte vs shiny marbles. I posted the one on the right earlier asking what type it was as the bottom white made it fall outside of the tiger eye ID chart I have, but we know Vitro likes to throw in curve balls all the time, so there's that. I have found another marble which sports the same colors, except it doesn't have white at the bottom pole. The colors in both marbles are virtually the same. Both are 1/2", both are on a clear base. The difference is the first one (on the left) is shiny and the 2nd one on the right has a definite matte finish. This just seems to be done on purpose at the time of production. Either way, I'm thinking Tiger Eyes on both just due to the construction of the shiny one. What say you experts?

[cheese]

I think a lot of them just came off the rollers not as shiny as others. The matte treatment I am talking about is frosted, very matte. None of those received any surface treatment IMO. 

[Dave 13]

17 hours ago, Chad G. said:

Are you speaking of "chalkies" Dave?? if so the white residue on those is lie, used as a fire retardant on the floors of all the vintage marble manufacturers. There's a reason there were so many fires "or not" The chalkies were marbles that hit the floor hot off the roller's and landed in the lie, which stuck to them. I would never have known what was on the surface of a chalkie but Ron @wvrons told me a couple years ago, after of course he had me research it to no end. Many things he taught me I'll never forget, I am truly grateful.

Cool Chad thx for that info 👍 I was wondering if the White on the vitro Conquerors are made with batch glass or from cullet , this marble ⬇️ I think has some weak Chalk coming though in the green patch ,one pic you can kinda see , that the white and green connects in the middle of the marble this mib is smooth but the white or chalk of whatever it is feels rough if I pull my finger nail across it 

I will add more pics and thoughts to this thread later 

[Dave 13]

18 hours ago, Kimbernugs said:

I have no idea what that is, so I'll defer to the experts on that one.

Hi Kim batch glass is made from scratch with raw materials ,and cullet is used glass broken up and remelted 😎

[Ric]

Sorry for the delay - some more matte ones to consider. It's interesting that I haven't seen similar on other types of Vitros . . .

[Kimbernugs]

18 minutes ago, Ric said:

Sorry for the delay - some more matte ones to consider. It's interesting that I haven't seen similar on other types of Vitros . . .

Wow. Very interesting stuff indeed. Thanks for posting those!