Jimbo.59 Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 So these from what little knowledge I have are sunsets because of the white ribbon. Otherwise they'd be clear clowns. Both have a pretty dash of AV in the yellow ribbon 🥰 Measure .56 To me it's blasphemous to call them sunsets...Sunsets are a dime a dozen, but I've only ever even seen these two in this particular variant.... Found probably close to 15 clowns in the wild over the last three years which leads me to believe these may be pretty special. So to call them sunset makes my skin crawl. Reason I'm torn is because they are going up for sale and I would really think it more appropriate to list them as sunset/clown variants. Or at the very least rare rainbo/clown variants? Thoughts? Much appreciated ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 WHOA!!!!! Tricky ! I think they are Foreign. We’ll see here soon what others think🔥 RAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 Dang it! The Pelt Vibe is pulling on me hard on these🔥 RAR🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo.59 Posted December 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 30 minutes ago, Fire1981 said: Dang it! The Pelt Vibe is pulling on me hard on these🔥 RAR🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿 I definitely see why foreign would cross your mind for a sec... The seams don't look foreign to me, and the colors ... 🤷 Here I am asking for advice then arguing the advice I get 🤣 I wouldn't be an Aries if I wasn't difficult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad G. Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 52 minutes ago, Jimbo.59 said: So these from what little knowledge I have are sunsets because of the white ribbon. Otherwise they'd be clear clowns. Both have a pretty dash of AV in the yellow ribbon 🥰 Measure .56 To me it's blasphemous to call them sunsets...Sunsets are a dime a dozen, but I've only ever even seen these two in this particular variant.... Found probably close to 15 clowns in the wild over the last three years which leads me to believe these may be pretty special. So to call them sunset makes my skin crawl. Reason I'm torn is because they are going up for sale and I would really think it more appropriate to list them as sunset/clown variants. Or at the very least rare rainbo/clown variants? Thoughts? Much appreciated ! Something definitely looks funky for pelt ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo.59 Posted December 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 44 minutes ago, Chad G. said: Something definitely looks funky for pelt ?? Uh oh, maybe the "these are pelts" statement was possibly a bit off 😐 I pegged them as pelts and just never questioned it... If it helps they came from a jar of about 350 marbles mostly rainbows, and basic alleys... A hand full of vitro helmets and vitro cats eyes as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 The heavy thick yellow ribbons are what has me hung up 🔥 RAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 I. Pics 2 and 3 the yellow ribbon looks like one I’d see in a Cat’s Eye 🔥 RAR🍿🍿🍿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 This pic here screams Pelt. Even has the skip in the white. What to market them as is beyond me. The marbles will sell with honest marketing regardless. I lean to variations of some sort of sunset. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck G Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 I agree with Chuck, some sort of (wonky) Peltier "Sunset". All the ribbons seem to be on the surface. Chuck G--- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroorka Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 I agree, they are Pelts and I would sort them as such. 19 hours ago, Jimbo.59 said: To me it's blasphemous to call them sunsets...Sunsets I would not say blasphemus--just weak "Sunsets" if they are at all. Imho these are very nice clear based Rainbo's from a short run--maybe a change over from one type to another. Marble makers kept the machines running and these things do happen when a changeover occured. How they stayed together??? Who knows. I would be proud to own them--no name imho. Nice marbles! Marble--On!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo.59 Posted December 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 Thanks everyone I appreciate all the help!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 After all the feedback I say they are HTF🔥 RAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 No doubt in the Sunset family, and with unusually crisp structure and colors too. Nice set to have! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boris64 Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 Maybe ravenswood... they made something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff54 Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 IDK I can't make sense of them in photos. A yellow ribbon and white plus red patch on top of this clear while yellow and red patch meet, like at a point? IDK These colors make me want to think of Mexico, or new glass, modern manufacture from somewhere I don't know. I don't know of any Peltier and I've had 100's and unopened bags of Sunset, Champion Jr style around 30 years where none have construction the way that red looks like a patch laying on it like that. The way the red meets yellow, just weird, strange for a Champion Jr style. I wonder: "Could there be a Vacor that comes close?" I mean, anything of Vacor with a few little straight stripes in or on any transparent color or clear, colorless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
et cetera Posted December 17, 2023 Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 Peltiers for certain - closest to what some collectors know as the Pelt Sunrise - with a thin splash of white. Sort of a hybrid of Sunset and Sunrise I guess, but I have never seen AV in either of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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