Pelt’s off set clockwise and counter spin

[Fire1981]

Here’s what I have. One side of certain Pelts spin 2 different directions and the some finish off with counter clockwise a spin. PPP example shows the clockwise spin on one side. The MCR swirl finishes off with a counterclockwise. Follow the red and white ribbons that get spun counterclockwise. They started thin but got thicker as they got twisted off. 🔥

RAR

[Ric]

I appreciate response, Fire. I totally understand the difference between left- and right-handed spin. What throws me is the idea that it can somehow be used as a diagnostic tool to sort machine-made marbles by company. In the other thread you said, "Pelt’s spin Counter Clock Wise. This one spins Clock Wise".

At this point, I am not even sure what to say, since these photos seem to contradict the first part of that statement. If they don't, please explain and I'll be happy to continue the discussion. Otherwise, I prefer to end it here.

 

 

 

[Fire1981]

I’ll dig out and  post some MCS that have this trait I’m referring too 🔥

RAR

[Ric]

Based on participation here, and in the other thread, there doesn't seem to be much interest in pursuing this topic. Please don't feel obligated to post any photos for me, it's really not necessary. I was interested to know how you could use "spin" to separate one company's marbles from another's. You have now shown that Pelts can spin either way. That is enough to satisfy my interests, and I thank you for that.

On the other hand, if you are interested in discussing and developing your ideas about how you can assign marbles to different companies based on their "spin", I will be happy to assist by playing the role of devil's advocate.

[Fire1981]

Ouch ! Corks spin the same direction unless they are Lazy. That’s an Akro accepted  trait attached to Corkscrews🔥

RAR

[Fire1981]

I really dislike the “On The Other Hand” cr@p. Time to shut this thread down. WOW…..I didn’t see this response coming at all🔥

RAR

[Fire1981]

“Hick Up In The Cup” and end up with a Lazy Cork that can’t get off the couch 🔥

RAR

[Fire1981]

I should have referred to the Miller Swirl traits that help me sort my MCS🔥

RAR

[Fire1981]

Yep ! Let’s throw the Miller Swirl traits in here. Please post any type of Pelts that have a valid and confirmed MS trait attached to them if you have any? Please share them. The MS is a tricky one to pin down.IMHO🔥

RAR

[disco005]

I don't have a whole lot of Pelts to contribute to this conversation, but I do have Akros 😆
A couple years ago, I was curious about the corkscrew formation delta, whether there were more made of one direction.
So I lined up my larger size corks and here were my results. Counterclockwise on the left, clockwise on the right (the marble in the middle is just a size reference 5/8").

FWIW 

And now I want to dig out all the Spirals and sort based on spin direction.

[et cetera]

Personally I don't see how spin direction in a fully machined SWIRL marble is important or plays any part in company identification.  Akro used the spinner cup to obtain the CORKSCREW pattern which controlled the end result.  SWIRLS (not corkscrews) are completely directionally random.  Overall pattern, glass quality and color(s) are what makes an ID.

[Carowill]

4 hours ago, et cetera said:

Personally I don't see how spin direction in a fully machined SWIRL marble is important or plays any part in company identification.  Akro used the spinner cup to obtain the CORKSCREW pattern which controlled the end result.  SWIRLS (not corkscrews) are completely directionally random.  Overall pattern, glass quality and color(s) are what makes an ID.

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[Alan]

I too do not see where this leads, given how crude and variable the manufacturing process was.

From an Akro perspective, the process was also crude and variable, and for the same reasons.  From the corkscrew focus - corkscrews would be quite variable because the spin was imparted by the grooves in the spinner cup.  The blank spinner cups were provided to Akro as smooth graphite.  The machine operators had to carve the grooves and this appears to have been done fairly crudely with a pen knife.  The depth, width and style of those grooves were very variable, owing to each operator's personal approach and possibly how hurried they were.  My two spinner cups are different.

 

Also, spinner cups were wear components.  A spinner cup with freshly-cut grooves will impart more spin than an older, well-worn cups with smooth or damaged grooves.

The vintage marble making process was a crude variable process.  Odd, random results should be expected.  They don't usually trace back to some unusual process.

[cheese]

About half of corks spin one way, half the other. Not sure how the direction one spins can be a trait. Pelts can spin either way too or not at all. How do you explain the ram's heads then, which swirl both ways?