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As to "experimental", I would avoid using that term. I've heard that Akro's true experimental runs were made on larger size marble machines. I can't remember what rationale was given for that. Whether it had to do with checking glass quality or whether the large machines were less likely to be needed for normal production, or what. But that's what I heard. if I recall correctly.

I kinda like the Akro idea on both.

Archive-worthy explanation! Thanks!

Wow. Where does she get the material she works with?! I once broke a Peggy Karr plate. I couldn't bear to throw it away so I tumbled the pieces. That turned out nicely.

I was under the impression that the term "end of day" had fallen into disfavor. Can anyone confirm or clarify?

Just in case it doesn't go without saying . . . that is SO cool.

Well, hello Bob! Welcome. That's wonderful memorabilia. Love to hear as much as I can about tournaments - - - and champs! What are your marble interests these days? I think I'll temporarily move this over to the main chat area, so more can see. The study hall is a lower traffic zone but this thread is getting some interesting contributions to it.

omg, yes! wow. it caught my eye the first time, but I only just now expanded the thumbnail! that's a joy!

So, what IS it? I tried to read the label. Apparently if they're low on volume, you can soak them and plump them up? Are they a new product?

LOL. Betcha wish you still had all the ones you were given in the 1800's.

Nice. Here's mine. I'll trade you.

Funky effect. looks like it's a bubble inside. lol. I guessed what this was about just from the title. But didn't guess what it would look like.

Those are fun! knowing who made them makes it all the better.

Yes, do! It's animated. :-)

Them's is beauties, R! Classics!

Sure thing. I know Champ has horsehair because in addition to Ron saying so, he sent me a dug Champ with it. But that was aqua. The transparent swirls are really really hard for me. But also in the dug Champs Ron sent is a blue transparent swirl which looks much like yours in color and texture. No ox though. By texture I'm thinking of the look of the white. Nice and meaty, with a textured underside, and that little groove running along the top of the ribbon. Do you see what I mean about the groove? It's very visible in the bottom left view here: It's in my dug champ, and I think I've seen it mentioned in other Champ ID's. But it wouldn't be the first time I'd associated a feature with some particular company and come to find that others did it also. So, DID Alley also have the little valley running along it's transparent swirl ribbons? Well, whether or not they did, my blue Champ swirl looks very much like yours in the colors and quality of the glass. Not as busy, but still very similar.

Your pic in post #16. Your tentative i.d.: Ravenswood, Champion, Alley, Champion Champion, Alley, Alley, Ravenswood Ron's response in post #23: I'm reading that as Champ on the top right.

What? He said Alley? I thought he agreed with Champ. What am I missing?

Didn't you ask about this one before? Yes, I think so, or one very similar. You tentatively ID-ed it as Champ, and if I'm reading correctly Ron agreed with that. Sorry I didn't remember that right off. When we had that big horsehair oxblood discussion, I was mostly concentrating on the aqua examples. I didn't recall the outright blue ones. link

Chiminey Crispness! That's sharp!

How does structure fit into it? Are any of Akro's moonies swirls? [edit: they were around before 1930 so I really don't know the answer to this] Are any of CAC's moonies patch-like?

Tinsley Green Here is the data simply copied from spreadsheet. Spacing is lost. I'll work on straightening it up. This is just to get me started. This information was sent to me by Sam McCarthy-Fox. Here is a short bio of Sam. Note: Please see Sam's pdf in Post #22 for a readable copy. I have moved the information I had here to another page to still possibly work on formatting, but it's a lot of data and Sam's pdf takes care of it nicely.

p.s., PPP's don't always have swirly patches. (not that I'm voting PPP on Burt's)