Steph

There's something to that comparison. I don't have any strong feelings about the Miller swirl. I just know I don't have any. Unfortunately, the pre-Freese label leads to mixed up id's. With Miller you at least know you're in the Peltier family. The pre-Freese label leads some people to advertise their corkscrews as from 1920. That may only be 10 years off but that was a pretty pivotal 10 years for the company. And it leads some people to see eyelashes and conclude Akro. I know I used to do that. When I learned that Masters could also have eyelashes it increased my Master collection. lol er, I mean, good point. Love that aventurine! LOL

Hiya Clamdigger. I realize you are asking for some ID's but I moved this to the general chat forum anyway because these really need to be shown off. IMHO! For ID's it's usually best to focus on one group per thread. Usually a smallish group, but one group in any case. So you might want or need to start new threads anyway. In the meantime, WOW. -s

Very nice eyelashes. :-) I don't know what this one is. It could be Akro, I guess. However, eyelashes don't necessarily mean any particular maker. "Pre-freese" is a notion which has caused many mistaken IDs. Ira Freese's inventions had nothing to do with eyelashes being there or not. Akro introduced corks in 1929 or early 1930. Patches a little later. The Ira Freese patent which people want to associate with eyelashes was from earlier in the 1920's, so it came before all of those. Thus none of these marbles are "pre-freese". They are all later. So "pre-freese" doesn't explain the eyelashes. To the best of my understanding. p.s., still very nice eyelashes! And love that aventurine!

That's a rather broad question. :-) I can appreciate a well-made reproduction box. This one isn't very pleasing aesthetically though, not to me, and it looks worse and worse each time I look at it again. I have some lovely contemporary marbles which could be taken for vintage. They look sweet each time I look at them. I guess it helps that there are happy memories associated with how I got them. Also, I wasn't told they were original. So there was never any let down. I always knew who made them. Lotsa issues. As you know. (lol)

Yeah . . . the forgers do an okay job of making them seem old and weathered. But so far they don't make them look professional. Here's one of the 5x5 boxes (from Lloyd's auction). Look how sharp this is. Compare the box in question: It looks like it was made with a rubber stamp. The font doesn't look right and the blurry, incomplete impression sticks out like a sore thumb. If there ever was a time when Gropper didn't invest in nice-looking boxes, my gut feeling is that it would have been before they started jobbering marbles. By the time of "Prima Agates", Gropper was bigtime and they knew the power of presentation. I'm sure of it.

Gropper was a jobber. They distributed marbles made by others. They put their name on the package though. If that's "real" then I think it's a nice find. Something about the print on this box looks a little wrong to me. And maybe the construction of the box itself. Not saying it IS wrong. However, with the known forgers about I want to fish up some other examples before I say more. Maybe someone else will recognize it as A-OK. Where'd you find it, if you can say? p.s. here are some Gropper pix: http://marbleconnection.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=6792

lol @ laughing at the snow. Congratulations!

$5000 chicken! (auction)

tasty turkey. yum. Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

Manddrakes isn't Reliford.

Happy Birthday Lady! Here's to a beautiful Thanksgiving weekend in Tennessee.

lolol

Someone recently showed pix of a big "Champion" cache. At least I remembered it has having a Champion connection. And I think there were cat's eyes there. Whose thread was that? And weren't there cat's eyes in some of the Bicentennial bags? Or were my bags fake? Anything is possible, I guess.

You might need to wait for Al. They look like they could be marbles which Champion would have had on hand. If there are cat's eyes in there, Champ wouldn't have made them, but they might still have had them around. Especially in the 1970's. Are there 21 marbles in the bag? There are some real Champ bags, filled with real Champ mibs, but not with the permission of Champion. If I understand correctly. Champ bags are a tricky area.

If anyone would know, I think it would be Al.

Corals have been found in Pressman Bull's Eye bags. My impression, based on statements made by Ron, is that the swirls in Pressman bags would be Alleys. Here is an example Al posted in a thread about a Pressman bag with corals in it. The company name is chopped off here though, so I am only guessing it was Pressman. Al?

I think the ribbons run deeper than normal MK would. The white parts could be from the scanner. Awfully bright light involved there.

Is this the same Leo? http://marbleforum.blogspot.com/search/label/Leo%20Contreras%20Collection

Those are like sunsets. Real sunsets. Very nice.

those pastels are sweet.

I also was under the impression that Bogard made cat's eyes. However, they did have a relationship with Marble King. Bought cat's eyes from MK for Bogard bags, sold industrial marbles to help fill MK industrial orders. (this according to AMMM)

I believe those are Christensens. I can't remember exactly what the box said but I think the labelling was clear. Might have said both Gropper and Christensen. I definitely need to find the pix. Supposedly the mibs weren't all as swirly as these four look. Some had seams. Since so many companies made single color mibs, I wouldn't have a lot of faith in being able to identify one in the wild as Ravenswood or CAC or Alley or Champion or whoever. However, I have a diaperfold in blue which would fit right into that box. I'm completely convinced that mine is CAC.

Thanks for salvaging Sue's post! USPS insurance on $3000 is 32 bux.

Sue, I deleted your post! I'm so sorry! I was trying to delete a double post I made. I immediately saw I pressed the wrong button but it didn't give me the regular "are you sure you want to do this message" before it went ahead and knocked it off. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh. Now I've deleted my post too in shame.

What a good question. It would be awesome to see something comprehensive on corals. Which all are Champ varieties. Which are Alley, Ravenswood, CAC, .... Did anyone else do them?