Steph

yum yum yum yum yum and might I add, YUM! Great story! suhweet mibs. p.s. Does anyone else see the face in the cullet or is it just me?

Well, the image name is last_dig_015 ... Are they dug? :-) I love hearing about dug mibs. :-)

Hi Bill. Your 'just because' pix are great but this one has me curious ... would like to hear more about these. the pic has an interesting name. :-)

Nothing too private to say here. I just don't want to stir up any more confusion. We've been through enough.

Carole, ziggyzora was quoting something she'd been sent. She wasn't saying that she knew you or that you and she had spoken to each other. I think I've figured out what happened. I can email you about it if you'd like.

Hey M!b$, don't you wish the seller had shown more of that mib? Here's one more thing to ponder. Well, you were wondering about the colors so I guess this is more for people like me who might still be hung up on the structure. but check out the disappearing tricks the yellow plays on Craig's Blue Galaxy here. And Craig's was only 5/8". A large mib gives more room for goofy things to happen. Anyway, the seller does accept returns. Maybe in a coupla weeks the feedback will show what the buyer thinks.

29/32" would be a bit over 7/8". What about 7/8" give or take would make Vacor seem less likely? Anyway, if Pelt it could have come in a box like Greg's here: Some More Rainbos, No. 6 Pelt NLR Stock Box. For the record, and for sake of discussion, a coupla more pix from the auction:

barump!

Here's something else which could be fun to consider as the auction ticks down. Here's what I believe to be an unswirled Vacor. One ribbon of red and one of yellow(ish). (Susan's mib) Does anyone have reason to believe that the Vacor version were ever made with more than one red ribbon, plus the yellow? This one in the auction looks like a different, more pelty structure to me. Here's a pic of a seam from the auction. Wacky, but more pelty than vacor, imHo.

another point to consider for those who like background ... the rest of their auctions both current and recently completed look vintage. Mixture of quality. Here are the highest dollar auctions I saw in a quick look at their feedback for last month. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=360154759071 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=360148244194

Marble Shooters: just a start ... going to keep going until I recognize one like Pinx posted at Marble Mental ... or until I wander away ;-) Most of the information is copied from the main Google Patents page for each patent. I've caught a few typos, and a couple of places where the info on the main page was incomplete. For example, there might have been more inventors than were credited on the main page. I haven't checked all of those. Patent number: 146563 Filing date: Oct 18, 1873 Issue date: Jan 20, 1874 Inventor: JOHN ALEXANDER Patent number: 174780 Filing date: Jan 2, 1876 Issue date: Mar 14, 1876 Inventor: ROBERT W. CHURCHILL Assignee: Albert D. Laws Patent number: 184717 Filing date: Apr 25, 1876 Issue date: 1876 Inventor: ALBERT D. LAWS Patent number: 262644 Filing date: Mar 31, 1882 Issue date: Aug 1882 Inventor: JAMES F. CONNELLY Patent number: 379913 Filing date: Jan 19, 1888 Issue date: Mar 1888 Inventor: ROBERT N. STOCKTON Assignee: William F. Cramer Patent number: 464407 Filing date: Apr 22, 1891 Issue date: Dec 1, 1891 Inventor: Charles E. Wilkinson and Gustav O. Wendell Patent number: 472608 Filing date: Oct 29, 1891 Issue date: Apr 12, 1892 Inventor: WILLIAM W. RAND Patent number: 496539 Filing date: Jul 2, 1892 Issue date: May 2, 1893 Inventor: JOSEPH REINERT Patent number: 518295 Filing date: Mar 16, 1893 Issue date: Apr 17, 1894 Inventor: ELIZABETH M. VELSOR Patent number: 552634 Filing date: Oct 14, 1895 Issue date: Jan 7, 1896 Inventor: Walter E. Everitt Patent number: 582474 Filing date: Nov 10, 1896 Issue date: May 11, 1897 Inventor: GEORGE P. HOFMEISTER Gameboard, with a marble shooter in it. Patent number: 1302378 Filing date: Oct 23, 1916 Issue date: Apr 1919 Inventor: Kennedy Patent number: 1337934 Filing date: Jan 14, 1919 Issue date: Apr 1920 Inventor: Madison Patent number: 1543144 Filing date: Apr 9, 1925 Issue date: Jun 1925 Inventor: Wurm Patent number: 2129461 Filing date: Jan 19, 1933 Issue date: Sep 1938 Inventor: Earl A. Boerger Patent number: 1988191 Filing date: May 2, 1934 Issue date: Jan 1935 Inventor: Donato Patent number: 2279766 Filing date: Jun 6, 1940 Issue date: Apr 1942 Inventor: Truesdell Patent number: 2600883 Filing date: Dec 23, 1947 Issue date: Jun 1952 Inventor: Frederick H. King (plunger guide for marble shooters) Patent number: 2601070 Filing date: Oct 16, 1950 Issue date: Jun 1952 Inventor: Teschel et al. Patent number: 2791210 Filing date: Jan 4, 1955 Issue date: May 1957 Inventor: Vog et al. Patent number: 3183903 Filing date: May 16, 1963 Issue date: May 1965 Inventor: John O. Thompson Patent number: D201692 Filing date: Jan 11, 1965 Issue date: Jul 1965 Inventor: Edmund R. Braun Patent number: 4978124 Filing date: Oct 16, 1989 Issue date: Dec 18, 1990 Inventors: Robert L. Brown, Robert D. Shilen, Robert F. Rosnak Assignee: The Quaker Oats Company

neato! How does it look lit up, in a dark room?

Ditto Felicia! Maybe more of us collectors need to learn how to play! Time to start doing thumb exercises. One time I asked my husband if he would play with me. He said suuurrrre, if I could find some marbles I wouldn't mind getting dinged up. I did finally put together a jar of marbles like that! exactly with the idea of playing! But I never followed through. Maybe I'll go do some target practice now! LOL

The most adorable prequel ... Whitney was destined to be a National Marbles Champion .... Whitney practicing her winning moment.....12 years before it was needed, lol Whitney's first National Marbles Tournament, just learning to shoot. Trying to take her first shot at 9 months..........those are itty bitty knee pads!!

Debra Stanley-Lapic the National Marbles Champion of 1973 hasn't missed a national tournament in 37 years. She has a wealth of information, not to mention photos, which she'll share if there is interest. Here is the first installment ... from this year's tournament ... a very special event! I have the privilege of posting this time while the Lapic family is traveling, celebrating and unwinding! But Debra will be back to field your questions if you have any. Thank you, Debra! The pix and captions are classic! National Finals.....Whitney Lapic, Berks County, PA and Penelope Bauer, Allegheny County, PA The traditional kiss 2009 National Marble Champions....Ricky Brode, Cumberland, MD and Whitney Lapic, Berks County, PA Whitney shooting during National finals Lining up a shot Last years National Champs crowning the new champs Me crowning my daughter.....a very proud moment Mibsters with attitude, lol

anyone have examples of polished pelts? Those can look odd ....

There are a few marbles SOMEWHERE in here. 3 peewees and a bumblebee

Here's a pair of pix showing how the poles can open up on an onionskin during polishing. I think they were from ebay. They were posted in a previous discussion.

I'm confused? Were all those things posted on this board, or at least in public? Being proud of this board for planting its feet in the sand and standing up against abuse sounds like something I might have said. But I don't know that I said it in public. Lou and Sue did stand up against abuse. And they've been paying for it ever since. It's hard to stay balanced and positive when you're having crud slung at you on a regular basis. Actually, it's sort of a compliment to them how much some others want this board to suffer. There is a lot of gray area. Few people are 100% innocent in any given situation. Few hot situations are cleanly dealt with before more than one person has dirtied their hands in ways they generally wouldn't do. Situations wouldn't have gotten hot if everyone were contributing in a rational manner. But what free speech should be allowed? And what is too far? And what about the people who are savvy enough never to be direct yet who inflict much more damage than the people who are just awkward? The best bullies aren't going to get caught as often as the less practiced ones. Some talented bullies have Lou in their sights. They deftly poke fun at Lou for cutting the awkward people slack while saying nix to people who oughta know better. I've been annoyed when that standard has been applied to me. I know better than some of the other people, so I should behave better. The fact is that moderators have to make decisions on a case by case basis, in context. No set of rules will ever be made to cover every situation specifically, and someone will be upset with how the rules are interpreted. There are people who are trying to hurt this board. I think that by reacting to it, we're letting 'em do it. Same way I let them hurt me, when I couldn't help reacting to it. But reacting hurt both me and the board more. It's tough. How much do you take? and how much does Lou allow? The critics won't allow that gray area could be decided on a case by case basis. They outright call Lou a hypocrite for taking past events into consideration when making a decision. Two similar seeming cases could get called two different ways, based on consideration of the big picture. It's a reasonable thing to do but the people who scorn this board are going to say it is hypocrtical. It doesn't matter what is said here. They're going to say it is hypocritical. They'll find SOMETHING wrong no matter what is said. And when it gets hard to find something specific wrong they can always fall back on making fun of the people on a more personal level. So, really what is the point in responding? Certainly not changing the critics. But people still feel a need to vent when they've been attacked. It's understandable. I sure feel it. ;-) I vented at the Alley though. ;-) Coz this is a marble board. And the Alley is Almost Anything Goes.

He's been gone after on some fronts. He is persona non grata here and at LOM. He registered a new name at LOM and posted this very marble last month. He thanked us for the "useful information" we gave him. And then he listed it as a CAC anyway. He doesn't seem to be violating ebay's policies most of the time since the companies whose names he is bandying about aren't in business anymore and won't sue them for trademark violation. And I don't think the couple of people who may have contacted his local police department were considered compelling enough to respond to. Someone who has actually been taken by him needs to (a) realize it and (b ) do something about it. Gonna be hard to get the right person for that job. Maybe someone with some bucks to burn and the knowhow can become one of his victims and then contact the right authorities to get action. In the meantime, he seems to get a great thrill from flaunting his doublespeak auctions and forgeries. This is one of the few he's listed recently where he's outright declared the wrong thing about it. Usually he just sort of alludes to what he wants people to conclude and many seem to fall for it.

When the culture makes something seem cool, kids want to take part in their own way. When "adult" is defined by what sort of things you need to be of age to check out from a video store, instead of in more old-fashioned terms such as the ability to take responsibilty, kids think it's more cool to be that kind of adult than to be the quiet hero kind. Maybe I'm not saying it exactly right, but the idea seems clear to me on a very common sense level. But sometimes people are laughing too loud to get the sense. If the most prominent adults in a kids life are spending as much as it sometimes seems competing to get the biggest laughs, and if the subject matter doesn't matter as long as it delivers the laughs, then what are they teachin' the kids?

modern chinese handmade pretty sure they can still be had for a buck or two.

that also bugged me. that's the kind of fold which seems to pop up in dug akros on a semi-regular basis. if it's dug who knows what would happen? not arguing. just saying. that's also keeping me mystified. But the Vitro voices are calling from across the moors ..... ooooohhhhh vitrroooooooo

If you think we might be able to help with the pix, let us know! It would be awesome to see them. I did see a 25 second video showing Whitney being crowned. http://wfmz.com/view/?id=1218630

Thanks Edna for the compliment! And thanks Dani for saying "vitro". That's what I was wondering about. Sounds as if Edna was getting at that too. But to tell the truth, I'm still mystified. The base is messin' with my head.