Steph

but how did this one end up in the pre-1970 handmade marbles section? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=260429119677

Ooh, very pretty Mike, and thanks for the clarification, Craig. Thanks Al, those greens look as if they could be a little translucent ... Are those old stock, Charles? neat stuff. Thanks everyone! If I find the box which I thought contained something really opal-ly sounding, I'll post that. Right now I just have a foggy sense that I oughta be able to find it. I don't know where though. oh well, I'll find it or I won't.

What do you think the top of this box looked like? Too narrow for a Ringer marble set box, huh? But it does look like a paper box, right? The picture doesn't match the specs of the description below it. Sorry, I didn't mean to change the subject so abruptly from Ringers. I looked this ad up hoping that it would turn out to be a Ringer box traveling incognito. I didn't do a good enough dimension check before I started posting. Edit: looking in American Machine-Made Marbles, I guess it might be a stained glass box. yeah .... that looks like the right size for the stained glass examples .... probably no mystery. Unless someone would like to talk about the box in the written description. p.s. it is my ad now! *happy dance* George Sourlis sent me the scan a little while back but then this last week he surprised me with the replica 1930/1931 Baer catalog from which he scanned it. (Thanks so much, George!)

Neat mibs! Very planetoid!

They are Akros, but it wasn't the name of a marble style. Ringer Marble Set, I think the box says. A set of marbles for the Ringer game. The official game of the national tournaments. My best guess for the box style puts it at around 1930/1931. I still haven't seen an ad for it though so I don't know. But in that general era, Moss agates were a very likely type of marble to put in the box. It all adds up. Moss corks are a much likelier bet for the average content than popeye variants with one too few colors. To the best of my understanding

I didn't see your photo when I posted. My brain is too full right now. I'm afraid to say anything. LOL. (seriously -- My brain just went on strike.) ... but ... wow ... what a sweet and unusual marble ......

The choice as I see it for most Ringer contenders is between Moss Agate variant and Popeye variant. (using the popular term Popeye rather than Tri-Onxy) There wouldn't be a Ringer variant, since to the best of my understanding Akro didn't make a Ringer marble. I can actually think of four marble types where some variation might get them qualified as a Ringer. 1) the Popeyes, of course. 2) the Moss Agates. 3) Spiral Agates with extra amounts of stray white in the base. 4) True Ace Agates with less than the usual amount of white filaments filling the base. Yes, Jess, there are moss agate corks. Here is a salesman sample box of them, with the price label :-) (click to enlarge) Mike's marble in the auction doesn't seem to have the translucent "moonstone" glass in it, so that's why I thought Popeye/tri-onyx variant over Moss Agate. (click to enlarge) Craig's look like they have the "moonstone" glass so my belief is that Akro made those as moss agates.

I think the ad writers literally meant the moss agate glass looked like moonstone. Like so:

I was thinking popeye variant rather than moss agate because the white and clear are so distinct. Moss agates would have translucent bases. They could have some clear and some white wisps but would have a prominent amount of translucence. What the Akro ads called "moonstone" glass. in my opinion, and to the best of my understanding.

:-) :-) *hehe* thanks for the smile. :-) My guess here is that Mike was right in pegging it as some sort of popeye anomaly. Made when one of the colors had run out or not started up yet. just a guess. :-)

Hey Mike, this might be the most interesting marble I've seen you list. Good luck. Hope no one minds. Guess it's not like posting a regular active auction to mention this, since it's a buy-it-now. http://cgi.ebay.com/Marbles-AKRO-AGATE-SUP...emZ160341942474

Does anyone have close-ups of what Pelt's game marbles looked like? Yeah, yeah, yeah, just game marbles. LOL. But still, anyone? Were they ever opalescent? Thanks.

I might already have posted this somewhere. Not sure. Anyway, it strikes me as a nice lot for study. It was on ebay. I believe it came from a Master box. One of those with the holes you can see the mibs through. I think it said Master Marble, as opposed to Master Glass. (I'll try to get it uploaded.) (click to enlarge)

Thanks Felicia. I think I sent my query to the first email address on that page. Oh my, I thought I had tried the toll-free number on that page, but I guess not. Just tried it now and got an answer. I took Mr. Charlie Hall away from a job and he had to get back. But here's some of what I learned in the few minutes we spoke: They do not make their own marbles, per se. They "remanufacture" them, doing whatever it takes to imprint them. With logos. Like Felix the Cat and Betty Boop. Oh no, I didn't ask if they were responsible for the Bennett comics reproductions. Someone will have to ask. If you want imprinted marbles, these are the people. They don't make as much now as they used to because demand for logo marbles fell about five years ago, and because so many other people have done the imprinting without license. :-( . . Lucky Dog gets licenses when needed before they make their marbles. In addition to the imprinted marbles they keep something between 25 to 50 million marbles in stock at any one time. They have Marble Kings for the brain teaser games and I think for Chinese Checkers replacement sets. They use 1" Vacors for the logo marbles. I think they might have used Marble King in the past, but I'm not sure. Mr. Hall was called back to his production line while he was explaining. In the logo marbles they don't run individual ones or little lots. You need to need 1300 to make it worth the set up. BUT if you do happen to want smaller numbers you might like to give them a call. They do have some stock on hand, from overruns from past jobs. (e.g., Coca Cola marbles, I think he mentioned, and it might be interesting to learn what all else ....) Mr. Hall has been around a long time and seems to know a lot of people in the marble industry. It was a fascinating phone call, and I get the feeling he'd welcome emails. He apologized for not writing back -- was out of state -- but he said if I had any more questions either write or call. I need to remember to send a thank you note. :-)

While I was pulling up the pic of the onyx for the other thread, I enjoyed these spirals some more. Thought I'd take the excuse to post them again. Check out the wisp of white in the base on the darker green ones. I didn't notice that until now.

Here are a few. (uh, not mine, in case I needed to add that!)

Bump for Bo. Least I can do after being a wise ... acre. Sue? Edna? Alan? Who else might know?

Just that they might have been made in Michigan in 1995 or before. There might still be Lucky Dog branded marbles but I haven't seen anything about where they might have been made after 1995. I found an email address for the person who seems to own the Lucky Dog brand. I wrote a short note. I didn't get a response though.

french fries, huh? :rofl: :rol:

Anyone know about those? Have any?

Bump. Gettin' close to time for the countdown.

wow. <-- understatement. wow wow wow

After 2002 Business continued after marble production stopped. Examples of post-marble products include:

"First Run" and "Second Run" Pelts - 2002 Related threads: First Run Pelts Pelts, 1st & 2nd runs Update: the newest thread to date. Super interesting company history. Peltier First And Second Runs? This is new to me Answers the question of when marble production stopped. 2002 seems to be it.

1988 - The Nova Family Here's a pretty powerful thread summarizing info about Rootbeer Floats, Novas, and other members of the extended Nova family: So Whats The Scoop On Peltier Rootbeer Floats, were they only made in a limited size? Worth separate mention: Rootbeer float experimental lot Galen posted at LOM