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well dear friend ...
nope, my whopper is a genyuwine vacor sunset!
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Roger, regarding your A to my Q ...
If you saw a marble above an inch which looked like it could be a Master, would the size have the power to make you say, "No, not master, gotta be something else"?
A monetary translation of the question would be something along the lines of, if you found a marble for sale tomorrow which looked totally like a sunburst, but it was 1.2" wide, how much would you pay for it?
If the seller was asking a price consistent with "too rare to value", would you think about paying it? Or would you walk away unless he came down to a, "this is interesting, I don't believe it's a Master, but it's still unusual" price?
Jane, sweet pink!
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Though I hope I'll find more among the threads I haven't yet read, there aren't a lot of Master threads on the board. When they happen, a wide of assortment of examples might be put in the same thread. So, even though most of the categories below have nothing in them, they are keywords for some of the things you might see in the "Various examples" and "Picture gallery" threads.
Master Marble Company/Master Glass Company (1930-1973)
See also Original Packaging
Various examples and discussions:
What kind of patch is this one please?
Master Or Modern ?? (many examples in Post #16)
The Master Marble/glass Show And Info Thread
Master Marble Bag, Is this a rare bag ?
Master Glass Vs. Master Marble
Ephemera & Extras:
Master Shooters (postcard)
Sunburst:
Brushed Patch:
Master?? (with extra color inside ... is it a sunburst as Roger/Sword44 seems to have suggested?)
Cloudy:
Comet:
Meteor:
Moss Agate Type Marbles Akro, Master, Peltier, Alley, who else?
Unique:
Tiger Eye:
Id Please.., Master Marble? tiger eye?
Name Game (see post #3)
Crab Claws:
Oxblood?
Master Oxblood...., anyone seen any?
Cat's Eyes:
Master Picture Gallery:
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Thought that rather than not post a pic I would post this piece of MM ephemera from 1933. Not that it has anything to do with the original question, but what the heck.........
Thanks John ... I've been waiting for you to choose when to show that card.
If I hadn't known you were the new owner it would have been posted weeks ago!
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Yup, John had it. That's where I'd seen it before, his postcard of "the Master Marble House on the Enchanted Island", which he has now so nicely added here.
The pre-written note on the back says,
The drawing of the house says "Master Marbles Shop" on it. I guess you'd go into that bubbly glass building and buy your College Collection sets and who knows what all!Just visited the Master Marble House, and gee, it's sure a great sight. Just think, it took millions of marbles to build it! Masters are some marbles. Better get some so we can play when I get back home.
Talk about a hefty advertising budget! My next question is how long did the house of marbles stand?!
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From the amazing treasure trove of MarbleBert:
Auction description:
1893 Columbian Expo Chicago bead, Very Rare, 47/64", mint condition, text reads "1893 Souvenir Chicago" -
Time for the 1893 Chicago World's Fair, aka the Columbian Expo.
Here is "a novel invention".
It's a dish! It's a souvenir! It's a game!The Crystal Sphere World's Fair Game. "Who can, in the least time, roll the sphere over the earth and have it stop in Chicago."
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Needs updating. Lots of threads from the last year need to be added. If you have any favorites, feel free to let me know here or by PM.
Christensen Agate Company (1925-1933)
See also Original Packaging
Company history:
Joemarbles.com: Christensen Agate
LOM: Arnold Fiedler
Various examples and discussion:
Don't These Go For Around A Hundred Bucks? (There's an interesting comment in post #4. I need to try to find the pix which were in post #1.)
C.a. Guinea Fragment With Visible Shear Mark...
One Of These Is Different., Five are from the same company
Did Christensen Agate Make Opaque White-based Swirls?
Marblelairium: CAC slide show
A True Conundrum, Some CACs are just wrong
Would Either Of These Be Considered A "road And Tunnel" Design?
Cac Marble Mail, She's a beauty! (nice mibs and some discussion of seam counts)
Slags (aka Onyx):
Peach Slag (this appears to be a CAC transparent swirl rather than a slag)
Ebay Is Messing Me Up. (beautiful peach)
Three To Id (Peach slag(s) in Post #5.)
Peach Pretender (not CAC
)Single Seam Slag Or Striped Transparent ???, 3/4" CA
Cac Orange Slag?, I believe it to be...
Hand-gathered:
Guineas:
c.a. "OO" guinea box
red guinea (rare)
A Fowl Pair Of Guinea's, WHAT NO FEATHERS !!!!
Privately Aquired Cobalt Guinea And Others, Please tell me what you think
A Few Of My Guineas, also found in the wild bib's required!!
Cobras/Cyclones:
Cobra?, yes, but how would I guess without being told?
Christensen Flame And Cobra?, help I.D
Submarine:
Various Swirls:
4-color Ca Striped Opaque -- Not!, Am I right?
Cac Or Alley? (follow-up to preceding discussion)
My Golden Rebel., Its not like yours
Flames:
Turkeys:
Diaperfold:
Bloodies:
CAC, "Worlds Best Bloodies"?, Need others input
Transparent Swirls:
Striped Opaques:
Striped Transparents:
Single Seam Slag Or Striped Transparent ???, 3/4" CA
Layered Sand:
What Is It?, Layered sand (see post #6)
Blue Lace:
Looks Like Lace, What Could It Be..........
American Agates:
Mostly Pix - Christensen Agate Company (Post #2)
Blue Ray:
C.A. Handgathered Mibs (post #10)
Jenny:
Orange Peel:
A Rare Christensen, "orange Peel" Marble
Peewees:
Shooters:
Pastels:
Cac Pastels (includes links to archived copies of Pete's page about his box of "pastel opaques")
Snotties:
Oxblood?
Exotics?
CA cullet (long and involved discussion)
Cullet:
Wanted: Cac Bloodie, And Basic Cac White Base
I Got To Wondering After The Speculation (guinea half)
CAC Picture Gallery:
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For fun and info and because it's just so cool, here's a web-friendly size copy of the pic Steve (n2marbles) posted of his world's fair bag with the shooter dwarfing the other marbles. He said I could use it for the thread. Ain't it kewl! And big! Steve, is that a sunburst?
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There are a lot of links I need to add to this, but I need to get back to reading old threads to find them all. If you have any recent favorites, I'd love to hear about them here or by PM.
Peltier Glass Company (1886-present)
Caches of information have been building up at other sources since I started this thread. See also:
The factory:Pics From Ottowa Il, The Peltier Glass Co.
Various examples and discussions:
Peltier First And Second Runs? This is new to me (some good history)
Idle Question For An Expert (slag and NLR discussion, more good history)
Comics & Ppps (More good history)
Need To Verify This Marble (the Peltier flip-flop)
Show Me Your Grey Based Pelts!
My Rainbos Are Sick (dirty bubble syndrome)
Question For Pelt Collectors? (I would still like to hear more about this!)
Peltier Lantern Wasp Bee Hybrid?
Opaque Red Based Peltier (it's sometimes difficult to determine the base color)
I Wanna See Your Rainbows, Any size any maker
A Controversial Thread (Superman vs. Superboy, and other stuff)
Slags (National Onyx):
Something For The Pelt Lovers... (assorted slag colors)
A Little Something For The Peltier Lovers...
Peltier White Slags?
Peltier Poll (follow-up to clear pelt slag discussion here)
Miller Swirls?
A Controversial Thread (see post 21)
Pelt Mail !!, The Most Underated Pelts.....
Multi-Color Swirls:
Pelt Mail !!, The Most Underated Pelts.....
Comics:
Dumb As A Rock, Sometimes ya cant see for looking
Someone needs to add a decent textbook explanation about the comics reproduction boxes. I'll try to remember when I run across the explanation again.
Peerless Patches:
Grandparent's Collection, Need Help With Id & Values!
Marble Mail, Extra NICE Peltier Patch (Bruiser)
Un-corked Corks, Or ... ?, (2 for ID)
Calling All Peerless Patch Lovers!!, "Smoke 'em if you got 'em!"
Identifying Peltier Peerless Patch Marbles
Fun With Peerless Patches (Comic marbles, with some "normal" patches, along with some wild shapes)
Pearlized Patch:
Could This Be A Pearlized Peltier Patch On Blue?
Calling All Peerless Patch Lovers!! "Smoke 'em if you got 'em!" (See post 19)
Show Us Your Favorite Patches! (Patry's patches in Post #13)
Acme Realer:
Moss Agate Or Cloudy Type Marbles, Akro, Master, Peltier, Alley, who else? (box in post #3)
IDing Acme Realers from Pictures, (can be tricky!)
Name Game (Post #1)
Honey Onyx:
Whatcha Think? (Post #8)
Mostly Pix - Peltier (Post #10)
NLR vs. Rainbo:
Would this be NLR or Rainbo?, Does it have a name?
Is It A Bird, Is It A Plane --- Superman, right??
Colors Are Right For A Pelt Sub, But..., I don't think it is... NLR anyways??
Nlrs Vs. Rainbos, Am I confused?
Talk To Me About This Pelt Please (this has the myth in it about rainbo ribbons running deep and NLRs being more at the surface.)
"Tweeners" (possibly late NLR to early Rainbo)
Pelt? (wide ranging NLR vs. Rainbo discussion)
Tracers? Bloodies? Rainbos? Huh? (just found out that Bloodies came in National Marbles boxes as well as the more modern big value assortment style - they might be true tweeners)
The Peltier Timeline:
Cool Oddball Pelt Rainbo, (haven't seen one before)
Peltier Windshield marbles revisited
National Marbles Or National Line, Which Came First?
Various NLR's: (if you think any of these threads don't actually have NLR's in them, please let me know)
Need To Verify This Marble (the tell-tale peltier flip-flop on a Ketchup and Mustard)
Never Seen Before, Peltier ("Blue Deere", you might say)
Yellow Adventurine, On Pelt's of course (Golden Rebel)
Pelt Question From Exciteable (Golden Rebel)
Killer Peltier K&ms (also a liberty)
Is This A Blue Galaxy ???, Auction Pic from this morning.....I lost
Northeast Marble Meet (Green Galaxy in post #5)
MM: Why Blue Galaxy? (Green Galaxy in post #7)
Look What I Caught Galen Doing On Camara!, Orange County Show
Hey Scott!! It's Here.., The Pelt Bengal Tiger!
Pelt Panda? Rarest Pelts?, Anyone own one? (Zebra vs. Panda, pix in Post #6, plus a lot of other great mibs)
Name That Pelt! Please.... (Blue Pandas in post #11)
Marble Pictures (brown zebra)
Peltier Post - Part Two - Cool Zebra W Green Aventurine
Hey Hey Hey Heres A Pelt !!!, got a name for it ? (anemic Bumble Bee)
Unusual Peltier, wannabe golden rebel ???? (Ruby Bee)
A Couple Of Nice Ones (blue bee)
Blue Aventurine In Older Mibs Can you show some examples please?
(blue bee)Name Game (Superman, Spiderman, K&M, Cub Scout, John Deere, Christmas Tree)
Whats This Un Number2 (is this a brown traveller? I've seen many different looking marbles identified as brown traveller.)
Does Any One Have One Like This . Peltier (See Post #5. Is it a brown traveller and/or moody blue or neither?)
Peltier Green Lantern?!?! (Green Hornet and Green Lantern)
Taking Advantage Of The Name Game???, or is this ligit??? (Discussion about a "Black and Blue", or "Blue and Black", and a Bruiser -- the Bruiser would be a different marble?)
Better Yet (Orange Rebel)
Pelt ? (Golden Dragon)
Rare Peltier Nlr Pink (Strawberries N Cream)
Some names I've seen before, left here now as a reminder of things to look for later:
Flaming Dragon
Flaming Golden Dragon
Lemon Lime (and other green & yellow pelts?)
Gecco
Red Zebra
Blue Zebra
Angels:
Name Of This Pelt??, an angel?
Citrus Set (NLR's):
yesterdays marblemail, citrus set (some history)
Is This A Peltier Liberty Or What?
Various rainbos:
Mostly Pix - Peltier (Big Value boxes full of rainbos in post #6 and 9, mesh bags with rainbos in post #4)
My New Marble Box (old box, marbles not orginal to the box is the marble bag original?)
Are These **pelts** Hard To Find ? 3 Color, A slice of keylime
Some Fav Rainbos!, What are yours
2 Cool Pelts, Anyone Have One Like These?
Baseball:
Name Game (Post #22)
Clown:
My Find Labed #13, hope this is a peltier clown
Copperhead:
Anyone Have A Pelt Copperhead, for sale or trade? (They're not NLRs? I did not know that!)
Windshield:
Peltier Windshield marbles revisited
Id Help Please....vitro Or Ca?
Transparent Base:
Cool Crystal Clear Peltier Rainbo
Id Help For Ebay Listing, Vitro's or peltier clear rainbos
Transparent base wasp
Peltier... Am I Right On The Name? (clear ketchup and mustard)
6 fingers, pelt vs. vitro with similar look
13/16 Orange Rainbo (?), we had a thread about these before
Nlrs Vs. Rainbos, Am I confused?
Tri-color Rainbo:
Champion Jr.:
Tracers:
Name Of This Pelt??, an angel?
Peltier Tracer, is this a common color
7-ups:
Name Game (Post #5)
Sunsets:
Bloodies:
Mostly Pix - Peltier (Post #6)
Muddies:
Look At These Two Father And Son. Ha, Ha.
What Kind Of Peltiers Are These?
Woodies:
A few pelts, Note: a few hundred (post #48 at present -- could change if something else is merged)
Broken corks:
Definitions (Post #6)
Banana Cat's Eyes:
Weeekend Finds, How'de you make out this weekend
Is This A Pelt Or Master Cat Eye
Experimentals:
Experimental Cat's eyes?
Other Pelt experimentals?
Peewees:
Pelt Pee-wee Cat's-eyes ????, Galen's " Little Pretty " has me wondering.
Ohh Yeah Shameless Peltier Plug
Sit A Spell And Tell Me More About Peewees
Shooters:
Id Help Please....vitro Or Ca?
Did Peltier Make Alot Of 1 Inch Marbles..???
Weeekend Finds, How'de you make out this weekend
Aventurine discussion:
Yellow Adventurine, On Pelt's of course
Fluorescence discussion:
tba: most link which comes to mind is not available
Oxblood?
Metallic?
LOM: Pelt? -- since attachments are periodically removed at LOM, here is Al's pic:
(click to enlarge)
Nova group, including Rootbeer Floats:
May 2009: So Whats The Scoop On Peltier Rootbeer Floats, were they only made in a limited size?
This is a pretty powerful thread summarizing information about Rootbeer Floats, Novas, and other members of the extended Nova family. Contributors include David Chamberlain who before this has often been quoted but not been online to contribute personally. I'll keep the other links below at least for the time being, but this is where you should start for an introduction and return to for a summary. (in my opinion - thanks! -sch, 5/22/2009)
Look What I Caught Galen Doing On Camara!, Orange County Show
Believe It Or Not (this is a follow-up of sorts to the preceding link)
L@@k !!! My Very First Peltier Root Beer Float !!!, Thank you so much Carole
MM: Root Beer Floats, Novas, and Pink Champagnes (article by David Chamberlain)
NOT Rootbeers:
First of all, if it is not a large marble, 7/8" or 15/16", you already know it cannot be a rootbeer. They were limited edition marbles, all large, all made on a single day in 1989.
If This Aint A "peltier Root Beer Float" Then What Is It?, The experts say no! and i wana know why?
Peltier Root Beer Float?, I think i hit the jackpot!!
Other discussion:
Peltier Red Root Beer Float Type. Help.
"First Run" and "Second Run":Other unusual examples:
Unusual Peltier, for the pelt lovers....
New Pelt (wow, what a "V"!)
Help Identify ("Polar Bear")
Peltiers (golden debris)
A Little Unusual (check out the bifurcated pelt in the middle of the pic in Post #4)
Mica In A Pelt ?, look at this !!!!!! (silvery bubbles)
Lemme' See All Your "junk" Mibs!!
"Triple" seam?
Cullet and/or dug:
Just A " Piece " Of My Mind !!!!
Cool New Nlr Addition..., with some grey (interesting NLR, plus discussion about dug pelts)
Peltier Picture Gallery:
A few pelts, Note: a few hundred
Couple Of New Big Ones, Note: very pretty pelts
Peltier: Your Best/rarest Three
(There are definitely more pelt picture parades on the board. It's a matter of finding the links.)
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Is this the post you had in mind, The Master Marble/glass Show And Info Thread?
Did you happen to notice the shooter in n2marbles' bag? Not a clearie. Maybe a Sunburst, maybe not, but definitely not a clearie. The only non-clearie boulder I recall "seeing" in original packaging.
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Elizabeth, following another line of thought, I was just wondering if you would have a pic of plain old banana cat's eyes in assorted colors you could add here?
The common cats are soooooooooooo hard to find pix of!
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Oh...also, as I was looking at the few that I had, I was wondering why some of them the vanes met in the middle and some had a space in between.
I dunno. Maybe we could get a clue from the Mirro cookie press though?
I'd guess it has something to do with the shape of the spigot the colored glass comes out of. For instance, if there's an open x-shape, maybe that'd explain the connected vanes. But four unconnected little lines for the glass to stream out of would give four separate vanes? Could it be as simple as that?
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Thanks for your numbers, John, and I'll try to find that thread.
What got me thinking about it today was the big 'un in n2marbles' 1933 world's fair bag. I was just looking at it, enjoying the original packaging, when wham all of a sudden I realized I was staring at a shooter.
I never noticed it before!
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There's been some debate over large-sized Master's. I have no idea what the consensus opinion is on how big they got, or how common big ones were. Or what styles big ones were found in.
I would like to hear more about that.
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This link has some pix of College Collection boxes from the fair.
This link has a rare bag from the fair. Note that it says, Visit Master's House of Marbles. . . . p.s. the bag has a shooter which looks like it could be of the sunburst variety!
Somewhere I've read a description of Master's House of Marbles. I could barely believe it when I read it. I really need to find that! Anyone here have it?
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If you're interested in owning cool marble-related things, check out Marble Bert's auctions.
And check it out soon. Don't know how much longer anyone could keep these things coming. Really great stuff!
Tournament winner medals, catalogs, postcards, statues of kids playing marbles, and on and on.
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This might be a fun site to browse through. Apparently you can have jewelry and keychains made with your own marbles. And change the marbles in and out.
Got All Your Marbles?, Jewelry with Interchangeable Marbles
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Another neat site:
They make glasses with Vacor marbles:
I think there was some discussion of the artist using her own marbles. Might have some by now.
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Marblies!
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Baseballs:
The pelt rainbo is mine. Don't know whose the ball is.
And here are some Bruce Troeh baseballs, 1" and 3/8", from the 2006 season, as presented by Marble Bert on eBay.
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While I'm thinking about it here's one of the other kind of stoppers, one with the marble built into the lid. It was posted here in 2005 by lifeisgood81.
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That was very interesting ... and very complicated. I'm sure I didn't understand it all. Just enough to think that I might get it if I try again when my brain has had time to recover.
Those inventors were getting really fancy.
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Now this is pretty funny! What do you think about these?
(ebay auction photo)
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dittos to Ann.
Cat's eyes are relatively easy to collect, and the Peterson and Castle book gives a nifty checklist for what to start looking for.
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Just one note modularforms you showed this Marble King blister pack as from the 70's
I am editing my information
Marble King is still selling the same Blister Packs with no choking hazard warning on the front;
http://www.shop.marblekingusa.com/product....mp;categoryId=2
That's an interesting package. It does have the choking hazard warning, but it's not an extra sticker added on.
To the best of my understanding, the 1970's packages said "40 American Made Glass Marbles" in the lower left corner, and the white choking hazard sticker was placed over that.
The package I see at that link is practically identical to the 1970's packages, but it has the choking hazard warning down on the lower left where the 1970's packages said American Made.
So it appears that for awhile Marble King was selling modified 1970's packages, with the white sticker added on after the law changed in 1979. And now they've moved to Retro packages, in the 1970's style, but with the choking hazard warning built in.
And check it out, the retro packages have the "40 American Made Glass Marbles" statement back, but now it's on the belly of the little guy in the top right corner.
That's pretty cool.
Akro Stats, Cork Counts
in Archives
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I'm trying to update my lists of interesting threads. One broken link once went to a thread called "Odd Akro". I had made a note beside the link saying it was about the direction of spin of a corkscrew but I don't remember what direction the Akro in question spun, so I don't know what was odd!
I figure if it was an interesting question then, it might be interesting now, so IS one direction of spin more common than another for corks?
If so, which one? And how much more common is it? What do your own samplings tell you?
60% of the small sample in my house spiral in what I think of as a clockwise fashion.
With a sample size as small as mine, 60% is pretty much the same as 50%, statistically speaking, so I can't draw a conclusion from my bunch.