Chuck G

Akro "Chocolate Oxblood", as i have known it for years, which came from the early Amanna Colonies marble shows. This (for me) was a chocolate brown base with a (patch) of oxblood on it. (Many) Akro patches came from Akro, in every direction you can think of. This example (could be) an early proto type they were trying to make, who knows? It is kinda like the Akro "Crows" many talk about. If they were dug only a few know this. I have learned about these in the early 80s. In (conclusion) i do (THINK) they were a production marble unless some one can say otherwise. Chuck G---

The Peltier "Colorado" has to be a (clear transparent base), with swirls and or ribbons of opaque (green, ORANGE, and white opaque). Most of these are (swirls). Chuck G---

Dave, i agree with Ric. Chuck G---

Brother Chad, (excellent)!!! now they can see what i mean, THANK YOU. Chuck G---

Ric, a very good question. With the Peltiers on a white opaque base and ribbons i have found three if not four (different) styles and ribbons combinations they have done. YES, some hard to find. When MK started with their first common color combos of the patch and ribbons as you study them, this is what you will find. Some examples are harder to tell than other ones. The patches on the poles are (opposite) colors as the ribbons below the patches (alternate) in color. Now as they came forward in their production, these ribbons started to get closer and closer into the later blended combinations. You may find that these ribbons are off about half way from being straight across from each other like the early ones, then came the (blended) types. This is the best way i can explain it. Chuck G---

Fire, a good question. We will start with (clear) based MCS swirls, not colored. Your example i would put it into the "Colorado" family type. It has all the color combos that is required for this example. Your example is harder to find than the blue base one. This three color combination with white, green and (orange) you will find in clear, translucent and white bases. I feel in early productions when Peltier started up with the final three color combos, they started out with (one) color, then added a second and then to the third color, as they changed many different base colors. Any of these tri-colored MCS swirls and even six ribbons MCRs in clear is very GOOD. You will find one clear base to hundreds of colored bases. The (early) swirl types are different than the later ones, as some of the colors are different. Stay looking for them, and you will see what i am discussing. Chuck G---

Steph, good thoughts to this but by (description) of a Peltier "Plum Citrus". A translucent base glass with four ribbons of opaque yellow ribbons and possible white added, with two purple transparent ribbons on opposite poles on the top and bottom. Marblealan used to say that the colored transparent ribbons reminded him of (jelly). Some collectors may disagree because you can take this "Citrus" family in many many directions. (For me) i like seeing at least two to six ribbons of (yellow) opaque glass in the example. Thinking Citrus, as the colors of (fruit). This is my (opinion) on this subject. Chuck G---

X3---agree---Chuck G---

Ric, i will guess either Akro or MK, very well could be Master also. Chuck G---

Ric, i would also say it is an MK. First and forth photo, left to right patches (opposite) colors, which leans heavily towards MK. Chuck G---

Peltier, (did) have purple glass from what i have found. Your example looks to be Peltier in my opinion. This is the reason, i have one also that i do question it being Peltier or Vitro. Why because we all know that purple glass in Vitro was quite frequent. Purple slags in Peltier is less than the other slag colors it seems. Overall in Peltier for this purple color in their examples are sum what (less). You have a fine example, a keeper for me i would say. This (separated) color of purple that lies (away) from the other colors is GOOD. Your example shows this, as well as my example. (For me), others may disagree, but the "Copperhead" example has this purple and blue in it. Finding purple in Peltier is always good, but finding purple and blue together in an example is even better. There are so (MANY) variants in all of their production, you will never find them all and after 48 years i have not, because i find more and more all the time. Keep looking, it is FUN. Chuck G---

Jeremy, Ric is correct, (NOT) a Peltier "Moody Blue". The "Moody Blue" has to have the (tannish translucent) base glass with ribbons of blue, either transparent blue or opaque, (plus) sometimes it will have a (tracer) line of white opaque. Some may also (consider) a grey translucent base into the equation. Chuck G---

Jeremy, collectors (DO) choose to collect certain categories of marbles. I collect (footballs) myself along with other oddities. Ric is correct as (we) collectors look more for the oddities more than production mistakes, but one has to decide what one likes the best. Double ingots, eggs, and footballs we can find them all with a little looking. I have know collectors over the years that do add these to their collections as conversation pieces. Chuck G---

Very interesting, showed this some time back. Chuck G---

Fire, i have two of these and (YES) i feel in my opinion they are Peltier all the way. Now i will discuss why i think they are. If you caliper it you will find that it is right close to 9/16th. I have never found one above this size. It seems to be just a plain transparent black four ribbon rainbo. We are all here to learn, and having examples of the marble you have shown is vital. Your example is the (first) one i have seen outside of the two i have. I was in the Kansas City miniature museum some years back and in a drawer i opened up was an (original Peltier box of 25 of these), all 9/16ths size. Yours having some metallic is even a bit better. A real (illusive) example to find. There is another example i am searching for and it is even harder to find than yours. In my opinion i would KEEP it until we are seen many of these, which i do not think there is. Chuck G---

Many many things were dug at the factory sites, which was tossed out even though some say(from different makers), so what a person comes up with for their collection is deemed for some great discussions. Your third photo does look to be close to a (double ingot), not saying it is, but could very well be cold roll marks. Dug at Ottawa, does not necessarily mean Peltier. I have examples that i am not sure if they are Peltier or not that came from (digs). I have in my collection one real close to yours, in excess of well over an inch but ONLY half a black ribbon on one side. Yours show a cast of inky blue where mine is black. One may think Akro, but who knows, as many questions do come about being dug at Peltier. My thoughts and opinions, is not this fun!!! Chuck G---

Chad is correct, first a common ribbon pelt, second Vacor "Rooster", third a MCR ribbon type. Chuck G---

Both examples are (older) marbles. The interior ribbons (possibly) earlier production, (your two examples), then came the more surface ribbons into the "Ruby Slipper". What is the name of the Peltier (translucent red base example)? What is the name of the opaque red base one with white opaque rainbo ribbons? Chuck G---

I have four or five that are like your last photos with almost the same look in the glass. Two have what looks to be oxblood and green. Chuck G---

Berry, let us talk a little more about this example. Here is some (thoughts and ideas) i have. I agree the white whispy look to the interior makes one think of at least three companies that had this if not more. Even later run marbles from Peltier (Second Runs) had this internally. Did Vitro have a lot of examples with wide interior depth to the opaque ribbons? They may have, as most was all outside on the surface. Some say a "Pop Eye" patch, probably the closest to your example (but) the interior works of Akro was more in line with each other up and down, not so much dispersed. If you can find your example (without) this interior works, just the red and green. Take that example and compare it to the example you have, you may find the colors match to your example. Early examples from Peltier, had a lot of (interior) works going on, (probably) after the swirls. One day we will all learn more in the production from the start till the end of the companies reins. Chuck G---

Excellent (feedback) and (wonderful) examples shown, many will learn from this. Chuck G---

Berry, (my opinion), it could be a Peltier that lies close to a transparent "Christmas Tree" family type. Chuck G---

Agree, real close to the "Fruit Cocktail" family type, only swirled a little more. Chuck G---

Peltier all the way, in the "Fruit Cocktail" family type. Chuck G---

I will surely miss Mary, as i met her years ago up at one of the Iowa marble show, such a (sweet) lady. So many we are loosing, sure sad. Condolences to the family. Chuck G---