
Chuck G
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this one has a P guessing a Peltier Christmas tree swirl? size .74
Chuck G replied to Gladys's topic in Marble I.D.'s
Gladys, a very nice example for sure, yep i would say in the early (swirl) family type. Just estimating that these could be when they decided to go to (three) colors after using two colors in the swirl type. May the upcoming holidays bring lots of JOY to you and in the family. Chuck G--- -
Peltier Rainbo ? what is this? Thank you! size .66
Chuck G replied to Gladys's topic in Marble I.D.'s
Gladys, i will start with the name "Blues Brothers" not sure who put this name to it. It is a (PELTIER) for sure, as i have quite a few examples of this. I can understand some may think Vitro, as there are (traits) of this in the example. Peltier made the MCS swirls and then some MCRs also, which is what your example falls into. The older MCRs had the ribbons inside where as some migrated to the surface, (looking veneered). The transparent colored greenish look is another trait of Peltier. Your example can be found EASILY if you look a little, however throw this design with a (clear and or red transparent base) you have an example that is hard to find. Peltiers early production of the MCS swirls and the MCR ribbons had tons made with this greenish and brownish, transparent base glass. This is what i have learned over the years in Peltier, some may disagree but this is how we learn. Chuck G--- -
Fire, i agree with everyone above. The examples you are possibly thinking of are the Peltier "Fruit Cocktail", as these examples have the interior works with (fatter) ribbons. Anything after that seems to be a lot thinner in composition. Chuck G---
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Fire, that is a good question and probably the one to answer that would be Roger Hardy, but dug marbles will be always (bigger), that is why they (tossed) them. MY (guess) on the biggest "Pop Eye" that hit the market place would be around 15/16ths and under. Most will range on the 7/8ths size give or take some. I must tell you this that (some) examples of the "Pop Eye Patch" marbles will reach close to the one inch size. A full one inch marble is pretty big for the kids to play with but they made them. For the one inch and the pee-wee 1/2 and under a lot less made it seems to me. I may want to add this also, and (anything) above and inch, per say 1-1/8th plus is very very uncommon in the early marble makers. Ron S may want to add to this also. Chuck G---
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I would like to add a little to this conservation. In ALL my years looking and searching for Peltier marbles, (you) will find so so many variants of base colors when one is talking about a specific color, like red orange and so on. The red or even the orange will vary drastically from one end of the spectrum to the other in so many shades. Brown is another color that ranges a lot in this color range. (IF) the (odd or out of range) color is not normal, i will agree, possibly being (rarer) it does warrant a possible name like Scott named the Peltier "Tomato". Green based Peltiers is another one that will range in many shades. The color of the "Tomato" is an (off) color so if you have an example, compare it to the other shades in that family type. I will have to (add) this one to my list of names. Just a few opinions on my part. Chuck G---
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Mo, probably go Champion on this example, looks more like that than Ravenswoods. Chuck G---
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY Rick, may you be blessed with many many more. Chuck G---
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Mo, i would go Alley on all of them except the first one, could be Ravenswood, my opinion. Chuck G---
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Mo, i will go Vitro on this example first then (possibly) Akro, staying with Vitro though. Chuck G---
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Mo, i would go Akro on both but could be Master on them also, but stick with Akro. Chuck G---
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Mo, agree with Chad on these. Always (remember) if you can make it out, the (poles) on MKs will be (opposite) colors. Chuck G---
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Mo, i agree with Chad also on this example. Chuck G---
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Bruce, i agree with Chad on both (possibly) Alley. Chuck G---
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Mo, top marble MK i would say and the second marble pelt, i think on it. Chuck G---
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Mojo, looks to be an Akro "cork" of some sort, especially the UV in it. Chuck G---
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Mojo, i would also agree, as it has the mixing of orange and yellow and sometimes red is in the mix. There are many variants of this marble. Chuck G---
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Mojo, kinda throw this into the Master "Eye of the Tiger" family group. Most who see this example would classify it in this group, especially if it has the black in it. Chuck G---
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Mojo, our monitor shows it to be a deeper red than the washed brown variant color in a Peltier "Wasp". Looks to me to be more on the "Black Widow" family type. I have found that this family type will range from a light (pinkish) color all the way to a super bright red base color. A few variants of the brown from a translucent tan earth tone, to a deep brown and some blending of browns and oranges also. A few odd and different examples i have found over the years. Lots of collectors have many opinions on this family type. Chuck G---
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Does this Peltier have a collector's nickname?
Chuck G replied to rockgardenplants's topic in Marble I.D.'s
I love these discussions on examples shown, (even I) learn from these still yet today. Sometimes we get certain things (stuck) in our minds till others come into these discussions and bring forth some great information. One MUST have a changable and open mind to all possibilities. Chuck G--- -
Does this Peltier have a collector's nickname?
Chuck G replied to rockgardenplants's topic in Marble I.D.'s
Rock, i would (maybe) put this example into the Peltier "K&M" (family type). Very interesting, see what the other members have to say. Chuck G--- -
Just letting everyone know that the marble show will be on Saturday the 6th here in Decatur Illinois and you can pass this on. There was a few issues with the hotel but all has been resolved and we will move forward with the show. Hope to see all my GREAT friends come and join us. Chuck G---
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Cameleon, is a great term, as i have used it before many times. I always think of it this way, what you see with the naked eye is not always what you see. Just like you said, till you (back-lite) it and find something else. Ron S could probably explain this better than i could. Chemicals and furnace temps change everything in a glass batch of marbles and what comes out may look one way till you see that when back-lite is totally different. I have seen what looks to be grey to the eye is actually red when back-lite. Chuck G---
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William, take others opinions and weigh them for yourself. This is what makes these forums very vital to keep learning about marbles. One (MUST) keep an open mind for change. Read and read more is very important. Akro and Master both had these (earth tone) colors in their marble making process. I have many opinions about lots of marbles, but always willing to learn more. Now for the shear cuts, (most older) marbles were shear cut (twice) in the process. How these cuts came out can be anyone question. There is a lot of information on the forums that explain this, and you may have to go back to the archives to find it. Chuck G---
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William---i will agree with Ron S, it seems to be an example of "Mater Made". Chuck G---
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William, gonna take a stab at this with some comments. It is not an MK i do not think so. Glass looks to be old. It looks to me an Akro, and the reason why is that it resembles the colors of the boxed "Hero" and or "Unique" example types. The white base color seems to be Akro. The brown and grey colors seem to be Akro. The shear seam cuts are like Akro with the tips at the ends of them, like the Akro ("Eye lashes") as some examples i have seen. Akro had (double shear cut seams) like this also. It very well could be a "Master Made" example also. Love to see what the others have to say about it. Both look to be in the same style (run) as they look simular. Just my evaluation of these two examples. Chuck G---