Chuck G

Both examples are very nice and a little different, especially the second one you call the "Grey Dragon". I want to share a little story about this grey example. I will take you back some years and my very good great friend Gino Biffany from Ottawa who has left us now. He was a digger sometimes up there and he had dug a some examples of these that i had purchased from him. We shared some nice talks about these, an his examples i got was the shooter size 3/4 plus and he had asked me to stick a name to them. Very reluctant to do as i know how names go for some collectors. This was around 15 plus years ago. These examples fall into a larger ribbon family type which has a opaque grey base, with an (orange) transparent ribbons on them. So far these are the ONLY ones i have seen until your smaller version. Your example could very well fall into this family type with ribbons on them, which i am sure they made also with smaller examples and bigger ones. Gonna try to find a photo with this for you. Chuck G---

Ric, i am very very curious to hear more information about the (actual) documentation and provenience about (OXBLOOD) contained in their production marbles. Chuck G---

Sonoran, i would say both are Peltiers from what i can see. Chuck G---

Tommy, YES, MK had (green) av in some examples, your first one i think they call an MK "Grasshopper". Some examples have little while others have a lot. The second MK looks like a later run (blend). Chuck G---

Ric, here is some of my thoughts to this example. My opinions and thoughts and take these to how ever you like. First, i am in more (favor) to a Peltier production to this example, why? I have examples that are VERY close to this in my collection. The reason is this, (glass flow) is what we ALL need to learn as Ron S has taught me. There is one photo that leans to the (yeng-yang) glass flow. What i have found over all the years is that Peltier had MANY examples of this specific glass flow. To clear this a little is that if you hold your example the right way, this is what you will find, a V pattern, (kinda like Vitro), put this V pattern straight on to your observing it, then you will find the (glass flow) will ride upwards and then turn to the right or left, follow this to the other side and then it will (maybe) do the same thing. These examples we collectors call (yeng-yangs) and or (Rams head Chevrons). Your example looks to be a Peltier "K&M" (ketchup n mustard), I found one the other day that is this that i put into the ("Rams Head Chevron") family type. Ron S and i with others have discussed this many times, and how it happened. Next question is if (ANYONE) has examples of Kokomo production marbles with this opaque white base, please show us, then i might change my mind to (possibly) be a Kokomo example. YES!! other marble makers did have the above mentioned also, as i have found them to be mostly predominate in Peltier. Learning (glass flow) is VERY IMPORTANT as the hobby progresses into the future. This is my (opinion), use it as you may. Many discussions on marbles is well worth learning more and more, but (always) keep an (open mind) to CHANGE.

SB, can you please give us a good description of this. I do like descriptions with photos it gives a better idea of what (family type) this example may fall into. Chuck G---

Been pretty busy while this virus is keeping us in the house. Gotta refocus and keep the mind and hands busy if you can. Chuck G---

I thought i would share this with the members. During this time of solitude because of the virus and staying at home, i get a lot of time to play in the shop. I had this in mind to do so went out and created this. I still have to glass and frame it yet. Chuck G---

I agree, marble collecting, no matter what part you play in it, is a never ending process of learning day by day, week by week. As soon as you think you know a lot, guess what more comes to the forefront to learn and one has to change what we have learned about at the start. At approaching 46 years of collecting, i do, at what is brought forth and have to adjust my thinking again. One could live three life times and still be learning. The best thing is that those who learn, (SHARE) what they have and keep moving this hobby into the future. The friends one acquires during thiscollecting time (for me) is the very best in a great hobby. Chuck G---

Ron, Bill did not make it here for breakfast. Wife is monitoring who comes thru the door right now. We still had the Decatur Illinois marble show as we took (every) precaution that was set before us. Many had lots of fun but with this virus not as active as it usually is. Yes, i found a new specie of Peltier i had never seen before, added it to the glass family with its relation. Old photo to add to this group shown. Chuck G---

Chad, (rumor) came to me that some (killers) were heading to you!!! Very very nice examples, thank you for posting some super nice photos. Cant wait to see what you (get next). Chuck G---

One must not (forget) that Peltier made hand gathered as well as regular slags also, (but) so very hard to tell them from other makers. Most collectors (look for) the feathered ones being the easiest to distinguish. Chuck G---

YES!!! a (true) feathered clear base and white opaque Peltier is HTF. They do exist , as i have seen them. I must add to this, that there are many Peltier white slags that are very hard to tell if they actually are Peltiers. I will not go into detail to much on this, as it will be promoted later on. Everyone knows of the clear and white "Sunsets" as there are many of them. However there is another example i (think) is pretty hard to find and not many examples are around, now i could be wrong but here goes. It is called "Snow n Ice" It is a completely clear bubbly base with (6) white wide ribbons (only) on the surface and (nothing) internally. In what time period these were produced, not sure. Look thru your Peltier marbles and see if you can find one or two. This is my (opinion) and use it as you may. Chuck G---

Chad, great looking examples shown. I would love to see what Ron S. has to add to this discussion. He can enlighten us some more. Akro "Chocolate Oxblood", a chocolate/brownish base with a oxblood patch, an Akro patch that is not that easy to find. Most i (think) were in the 3/4 range. Chuck G---

Hey Chad, i would love to have a (connection) out west. Drop me an e-mail if you get a chance, love to talk. My e-mail is [email protected] Love to hear from you. Chuck G---

Mike, some very nice examples and (YES) with this family type, there are a nice range of different ones. I (think) some of the hardest ones to find in this "Jasper" type are the green and blue mixed, the green, blue and PINK, the all PINK. It took me quite a few years to find and add these to my collection. The blue only is quite common. Chuck G---

Chad, you will find the longer you collect the more really (ODD) examples you will find, especially the ones that many did not hit the market that were strange colors. They seem to produce a lot of certain color combos but few exist outside of the normal colors you find. Chuck G---

Chad, i like this example and (yes) there are a few variants of this "Brown Bee" also a "Bronze Bee' with av. and maybe few more (offshoots) of these. The base color is very interesting though. Chuck G---

Chad, very nice example and (yes) they did make some an inch and slightly over, them being HTF. Chuck G---

I agree with the others. Akro probably experimented with av in some of their early years, as you will find this in patches and "Royals". Some corks have shown up with av also. These are sought after by collectors to add more to their Akro group. Chuck G---

Chad, some really nice examples, here is a few more. Chuck G---

Hey Chad, some more, have plenty to share. Pelt "Corals" Chuck G---

Chad, (YES) the one you are talking about is a pelt "Green Goblin", a very tough marble to find. Peltier is like Akro, so many many different species of them, true art in glass color. Chuck G---

A few more. Chuck G---

A few, old photo. Chuck G