I have never said they are intentionally making "mimics". I am saying they are not trying, not to, as much as I believe they should. And I have had personal conversations with Dave about making flame types etc. Yes they do attempt that which is fine if using unfamiliar colors or multitude of colors. I am saying they can use colors, glass types and combinations of colors that do not resemble old Vintage marbles. And as long as they are selling the ones that do resemble old marbles , they are, as you put it, crapping on vintage marble collectors and future marble collectors IN MY OPINION. And I have always stated it is OK to not agree with any of my opinions.