The one comment I made was just my way of saying that just because there was a patent does not mean it was used. At the speeds and number per minute mentioned above, it appears hand gathering was possibly a part of production going on at the same time the gob feeders were being used. And which I believe was the case. I just wish there was something that would help me understand how the Guineas and a lot of the single and two seam marbles were made. None of the drawings or writings available help me understand it at all. I would love to know how something like this was possible, They are made like a patch and patch, put your palms together with your elbows out and grip your fingers together, That is how the glass is layered? and helps account for the S so often seen on one end of CACs (and very rarely on any other 2 seam marble. If you chip the glass away on one side of the seam the pattern from the other half is submerged under it and the opposite at the other seam???? Crazy stuff for sure. Darn it, my free hosting site just went paid