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I agree Houze.

Alley made at the St.Marys location. Most WV swirls do not show cut lines, but a few can. Swirls do a lot of twisting folding wrapping and wadding with colors on the surface and or going through the center of the marble and out the other side.

One base glass, the other colors are added to the base glass. You could have white base glass and if the temperature got to hot for to long and it may go clear ? You could have clear base glass and when that gets low switch to white base glass. As the white begins to flow some of it(filaments)could end up in the last of the clear base. Different situations could produce white filaments or another color filaments in a transparent base. Some of it was planned and some not planned. Very few people could run a divided base glass tank. Dave McCullough did it a few times at Jabo. A divided tank is two equal amounts of totally different colors in one main base glass tank. He did this during a Tribute run to show Boyce Lundstrum that it could be done. Many times this can or will turn to a mud brown or black color. So most times I think the base glass is separate and other colors added someplace downstream or at the far end of the tank towards the outlet to the shears. Base glass is made from raw ingredients or cullet added to the rear or back of the furnace or tank. The additional colors are added(many ways or methods)downstream as the glass flows from the back of the tank to the front near the shears. The furnace or tank is on a slight angle or sloped so as the hot glass melts it flows towards the outlet and shear. Someone else may be able to explain it better. This is the basic or more simple method. Addition of the colors can vary greatly. Some used complicated and expensive extra equipment. There were single stream methods and multi stream methods.

Could be a messed up cork but probably a swirl. Could be a Cairo, Champion or Alley ? What color does the red go to when under black light. Does it glow white, yellow or green or what. The white base is what would normally glow if UV . Damaged far beyond any collector value. Size helps in identifying any marble. That alone can eliminate some, or point more towards another company. Size is more important most times than if it glows or not. Old marbles and new marbles can glow. I think every machine made marble Co. new and old made marbles that glow under black light.

It has ribbons not swirls. Swirl colors twist around and or in and out of a marble. Ribbons lay flat more straight on the surface. Patch is a patch or color wider than ribbons. Still difficult with these pictures, some out of focus, reflections from plastic, Cannot see the cut lines or seams well. At one inch size that narrows it down some. Could be Akro but the colors look dull and bleed a lot for Akro. Maybe foreign to the US.

I agree . Other companies have patterns with the V patch. Several Akro and MK have V patterns. The older Jabo classics can have the V or closed V which has been called the butt crack or a C or S pattern. This all from a short length glass stream from the furnace to the shear. The glass stream does have time to twist. It just folds over on its self has it piles on the shear blade. It is cut once the piles on the blade space between the two holes and is cut the second time. This V or C or S pattern and usually on one side of the marble is all from the short glass stream length to the shear and the amount of space between the two holes of the shear plate. Most common companies with the V- C or S pattern is Vitro, Cairo, Jabo, later Alleys from St.Marys location. But Akro and MK also have the V, but not the C or S pattern. Old information and thoughts were that a nice big V meant it was Vitro. That turned out to not be so true. It may be or may not be Vitro. Some people said that Vitro made the V on purpose to identify the marble with Vitro. That is not true. I knew two Vitro plant managers and both said they never tried to make any V shape.

I agree Master cut lines seem to stay more steady or the same, more than most companies. The problem with that is the Master cut lines are almost identical to many of the foreign Imperial packaged marbles.

Both Peltier

Vitro

I agree messed up Akro that did not cork correct, with a big chip no a big chunk off of it.

Peltier

Would need more pics. But either a Vitro All Red patch or a Akro patch ?????? With that little bit of yellow and the faded green, I might lean to All Red. ?????????

Vitro All Red. Named by the company. Always has one red patch on one side of the marble. Named All Red because when the kids shoot this marble the red always flashes and the kids favorite color was red. Produced in different shades of colors by Vitro for over 50 years. ALL Red is a white base with a red patch and a patch of another different color. There is also a Black Line All Red which is the same with the addition of a dark ribbon near or around the center of the marble. The All Reds and Conqueror marbles are some of the most common and most produced marbles produced by Vitro Agate. Both are found in sizes normally from 5/8 to 7/8 inch.

#1 is Jabo #2 Vitro maybe. But the colors look strange ? Is it really pink and green ? Odd for a Conqueror ? Would need more pictures of that one Seams or cut lines can be a indicator of a certain maker. But they are not always 100%. Shears can be changed. The shear blade gets wear and tare then is sharpened with time. Some marbles will show no seam or cut line at all. But each machine made marble is cut twice ,top and bottom. The hot glass stream flows from the furnace in a cylinder or tube shape. It is the cut once and again a second time. Then the glass glob then falls to the rolls where it spins in all different directions and is rounded into a marble. Then it cools as it goes down the length of rolls. The rolls look some like a drill bit. Two rolls running side by side with the marble between them. At a rate of 200-300 (5/8 size) marbles per minute, 24hrs. a day, seven days a week. Millions per week. The larger companies had a dozen or more machines running at the same time.

Contemporary(sloppy). You can see where it was attached to the rod in all three pictures.

Ravenswood Novelty all three.

We plan on being there Wednesday. But plans may get changed ? Received a contract today on house for sale.

That is a fold and roll mark, not a CAC cut line. Vacor.

Not hybrid.

100% Vitro.

Alley 1940-1948. Made at the St.Marys location not Sistersville. Alley was at Sistersville 1931 to early 1932.

Not luck, it is study. Not easy to fool godown with the old guys.

Thanks Royal . Just what my eyes have seen. Lucky to be in a area rich with glass, marbles history, and lots of people with hands on glass experience. When most people hear WV they think coal. But for many long years 1920 - 1980's the glass industry employed probably as many or more as coal in WV. Every little town or large town had some type glass factory. They came here to WV from Europe to make glass. Pennsboro WV even has a area named Glass Factory Hollow. Ritchie County alone has had ten or more machine made marble producers. Why did so many marble companies base in WV. The worlds cheapest natural gas, correct sand to make glass, RR for shipping. But a big factor was all the very experienced glass workers in every town. Plus I have ask a lot of questions, why, for 25 years. When someone said, just because it has always been that, or it is in a book. That was not enough for me. I went to or as close as possible to the original source and ask why and how.

All Peltier. LOL, I will not roll the Miller dice.

Blow holes are seen probably in more Peltier marbles than any other machine mades. Like Steph said the holes are from thin glass with a gas pocket under it. The glass tank or furnace has to be vented proper to remove the gas or air from the cooking glass. If not vented correct is one thing that can cause the glass to be seedy or have bubbles. Some bubbles can be small or some can be larger. The larger ones are more likely to pop or blow out. All companies had some of this. Marbles with these gas pockets can pop or explode shortly after being made or 50 years later. I have had marbles break apart into 4 pieces or 14 pieces setting undisturbed with no changes in my display cases. Not often but it can and does happen. I was at Mid Atlantic of WV watching them make glass. They had a 20 ton tank full of crystal glass. They could not get the bubbles out after days of trying things. Their crystal had to be 100% clear. They ladled out or emptied the tank, which took several hours. They refilled it and started again. The same thing again, bubbles, and cannot get rid of them. Two days later a mechanic was on the roof doing checks. He found a drive belt broke on a tank exhaust vent fan. One of five vent fans. That was enough to cause the loss of 30-40 tons of glass, cost, and labor for days. Replaced the belt and all was back to normal. Very small things can happen that change marbles very much. With all the heat, moving equipment etc. problems happen often daily and many days the problems are hourly.