MC Marbles Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Looks like someone is trying to repeat the 6100.00 Sale?? Note Private IDs on bidder history. Another Fake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Looks like someone is trying to repeat the 6100.00 Sale?? Note Private IDs on bidder history. At least it doesn't say "antique" or "vintage," but I doubt that would be a warning flag for some folks with more money than sense . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 It does say to email them if you have questions. Anyone wanna see what they say about the origin? I'm not gonna. Just wondering if they know, and would disclose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibcapper Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 email sent today ... asked specific questions ... bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moremarbles4me Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 I already asked if it was old or not and this is his/her reply: hello and thanks for the mail i have the marble only half year - i get the marble from man in lauscha thüringen - sorry i am not expert on marble and also the age i can not say - is it looking very interesting and unigue and not destory and not too mutch play or use also the color in original better looking the photo is not easy to make thanks for interest nangijala777 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sissydear Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 From my experience, the person you are communicating with is oriental. Edna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibcapper Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 I already asked if it was old or not and this is his/her reply: hello and thanks for the mail i have the marble only half year - i get the marble from man in lauscha thüringen - sorry i am not expert on marble and also the age i can not say - is it looking very interesting and unigue and not destory and not too mutch play or use also the color in original better looking the photo is not easy to make thanks for interest nangijala777 got the same reply charles. and he, they, didn't know what a pontil is .. ?? avoiding ALL the relevant questions concerning vintage or contemp. taking a chance on laying ur money down on this .. i.m.h.o. .... bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spara50 Posted August 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Looks like someone is trying to repeat the 6100.00 Sale?? Note Private IDs on bidder history. Another Fake Yes, this is the marble I posted a few days ago further up the thread. It is the number 7 coin that Hansel had him make along with the eagle. I had one that was in clear and smaller. The base glass on this one seems a bit more obvious that something is wrong. They ususally have unfinished pontils. The green one I have has a small stub of glass where the pontil should be. Sissy, unless it is an oriental person from Germany, I think the seller is German. Thanks for the chuckle... Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david Chamberlain Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Hi, Been watching this. Tried to email but I do not have an access account with eBay. I think eBay should be contacted and advised of the previous fake having been sold for $6100 + numerous 'experts' attesting to its fakeness and that another one is being offered presently. I could if anyone wants send a Priority Letter to the eBay Investigations Unit in San Jose. They were responsive to my enquiries a few years ago.....surprisingly! I continue to be amazed that Hansel and whoever else was involved in the manufacture of these marbles would have allowed them to be manufactured in the first place and then without some serious identification markings. It's downright criminal. By the way, I, of course, have Baumann's book with the CA sulphide info., plus the ACRN newsletter as well as almost all of the various research effort papers that surrounded that upheaval. I still intend to do an article on the subject but have yet to convince someone to give up one of the sulphides for a Destructive Analysis by a Prof. at NYU. Still working on that. Paul Baumann was so much concerned over this entire matter that he was passing out at the Columbus Show copies of the ACRN newsletter. The entire matter is very much contentious to this day with fairly heavy hitters in the world of marbles coming down on both sides of the issue and some of us still relatively inconclusive over it. Gotta go. Bringing the White Fronted Amazon to the Vet for beak trimming. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sissydear Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Craig, I said that because it's the way my Japanese sister in law speaks and the way my Vietnamese students spoke. Germans make different errors with English. But you could be right. And it could be an oriental in Germany. Doesn't matter, don't know why I shared that comment, sounds kind of ugly of me to notice. I wouldn't like to try German, or Japanese, or Vietnamese. I would be quite inept and whoever that person is was able to communicate and i would not be able to even make the attempt. Edna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibcapper Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 har .. this character knows what he-she are doing edna ... in straight words in my email i said they are NEW not old .. and the responce was .. i buy in laushau ? sp. don't know .. pontil .. just a bunch of b.s. ... you will NEVER get an answer from this guy. but what gets me are the .. bidders. i've made mistakes, even recently, in buying what i couldn't readily i.d. but ... at least i know they are vintage. there was no question about that. just from the not so good pics, bells ring ... oh well ... bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Here's one little thing to give the seller the benefit of the doubt. Someone who speaks German and only knows a little English might not recognize the word "pontil". A dictionary probably wouldn't help them. In ordinary English a "pontil" is an iron rod used by glassworkers for handling the hot glass. It may seem obvious to us collectors but it's a bit of a stretch to jump to the scar left on the glass when you break it off the rod. Someone unfamiliar with marbles or uncomfortable with English might not guess it. It's a sort of marble collector slang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marboman Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 I already asked if it was old or not and this is his/her reply: hello and thanks for the mail i have the marble only half year - i get the marble from man in lauscha thüringen - sorry i am not expert on marble and also the age i can not say - is it looking very interesting and unigue and not destory and not too mutch play or use also the color in original better looking the photo is not easy to make thanks for interest nangijala777 From my experience I believe this message is from Yoda.He has an extensive marble collection.Really I'm sure it's YODA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'llhavethat1 Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Not to laugh at somebody spending $6K on a marble, but I have found some humor in the posts. Yoda lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 LOL Bo you so bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marboman Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Yoda marble eye's he have ,rare.....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marboman Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Thats an original vintage marble bag he's holding,contents pictured.YODA you're busted!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clydetul62 Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 The person speaking is probably using a translator program such as Babel Fish. When you put the words in it translates but has many grammer errors. I supposs that the same occurs when they translate english to their own language. They probably have no doubt its new but please dont ridacule someone on how they speak. Clyde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigafoose Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Maybe the bidder has no plan to actually pay for the item..... Sticking it to the seller matbe????? I have passed on many due my lack of knowledge on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo44 Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Here's one little thing to give the seller the benefit of the doubt. Someone who speaks German and only knows a little English might not recognize the word "pontil". A dictionary probably wouldn't help them. In ordinary English a "pontil" is an iron rod used by glassworkers for handling the hot glass. A definition from someone who actually works with glass. A "PONTIL" is a mark on the glass where the "PUNTY ROD" (i.e Iron rod) was knocked off. Be it marble, dish, plate, vase, whatever. The "PUNTY ROD" is about 5 to 6 foot long and keeps the 1500 degree glass "at arms length" to keep from burning the glass worker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 right. the glassworker's vernacular is different from what a German native would find in a dictionary and babel fish is no help at all. it doesn't try to translate the word "pontil". From the American Heritage Dictionary for one example of what a nonspecialist would find without a specialist to set them straight - pontil: see punty punty: An iron rod on which molten glass is handled when being shaped and worked. Also called pontil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo44 Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 No Steph you are not correct. That is why I posted, so the people who do NOT know CAN know what is correct. There is NO similarity between a "pontil" and a "punty". One is glass, the other is steel. I do not post to argue (ask Sue), but since you want to continue to press your point..... ONCE AGAIN, YOUR WRONG !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semdot Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Geez maybe you should read Steph's post again (and again and again, until you get it right). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 No Steph you are not correct. That is why I posted, so the people who do NOT know CAN know what is correct. There is NO similarity between a "pontil" and a "punty". One is glass, the other is steel. I do not post to argue (ask Sue), but since you want to continue to press your point..... ONCE AGAIN, YOUR WRONG !!!!! No Bo you are not correct. Once again, you're wrong. If the seller were to look "pontil" up in their dictionary, would they find the definition you give? I do not think so. This thread became about the seller's understanding of a question posed to him/her. A layman seller, whose native language is not English. The chances are very good that the seller would not recognize the word "pontil" as a spot on the sulphide. I don't post to argue (ask me), but since you want to catch me in error . . . keep trying. I'll blow it sometime. ;-) LOL. Sorry Sue. Don't know why Bo feels a need to invoke you. And sorry Lou. Now that Bo is ranting I'll probably leave the thread. I don't take being yelled at - or greened at or redded at - all that well. Who does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Thanks Semdot. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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