Steph Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Did it not occur to anyone ask who is running Bluegrass Marble Collectors who is "Bruce Hudson"? do we know him? Something like that occurred to me. But as I said, it's mostly a curiosity to me. Pavcraz is a fraud. I don't need more proof. Before Pavcraz figured out that he should make his feedbacks private you could see the marbles he bought and how he repackaged them. He's even admitted to some of his frauds and said he did it to make money. In the most matter-of-fact way, like "naturally I would do it because I could get more money - DUH". Not those exact words but that was the gist. Kinda funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marblemansion Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Its highly unlikely that Pavcrav stole the image from BLuegrass - because he would have had to remove the "bluegass" lettering across the image to make it work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marblemansion Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 same guy here: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=252289682764&v=wall note the IDs down the line aways - Akro Slag? and the Bloodie? hmmmmm. and he runs his own Ebay account since 2008 http://myworld.ebay.com/hudsonmarbles I dunno - I cant find any links to the two except the photo...so whats up with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Let's be careful about jumping to conclusions about Bruce Hudson. We don't have any reason at this time to suspect that Pavcraz has Kentucky connections. Also, the fact that Bruce Hudson has started the Bluegrass site suggests more interest in marbles for their own sake than I've ever seen from Pavcraz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marblemansion Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Let's be careful about jumping to conclusions about Bruce Hudson. We don't have any reason at this time to suspect that Pavcraz has Kentucky connections. Also, the fact that Bruce Hudson has started the Bluegrass site suggests more interest in marbles for their own sake than I've ever seen from Pavcraz. I agree Steph - Bruce Hudson has bought several marbles from Marble Alan and seems to be inquiring about identifying his collection when in doubt. so how Pavcraz got the image is still a question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popculturizm Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 I do not think that Bruce Hudson is Pavcraz, Pavcraz eBay states he is in Maine that's pretty far from Kentucky, and HudsonMarbles seems to be a collector, from glancing at what they have won IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolbrezz Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 I joined today!The only other member is Bruce Hudson.That picture is in Bruce's gallery. Also it says that Alan was a new member but his name is not on te member list??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHudson Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 More fake stuff every week! http://cgi.ebay.com/OLD-ANTIQUE-VINTAGE-GLASS-TOY-MARBLES-CHRISTENSEN-AGATE-/140408515705?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Marbles&hash=item20b0ffec79 Ebay really does not give a crap, as long as they get theirs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHudson Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Well guys i guess im the stupid one this time.I won the bid on the marble in question.I never trusted pics to much and still learning the ropes on somethings.Its a long road to travel,Im not to familure with some of ebays fakers yet.I guess im gonna see the thing close up now.If the marble is a fake it will be the first time ive been had.Some people you just cannot trust.I mess around with arrowheads and such and been doing that for 35 years and they also have them fakers out there.Think i need to show up here more often.And get some friends going here. http://bluegrassmarblecollectors.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david Chamberlain Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Welcome aboard. I gave my arrowhead collection and small antique pocket knife collection to my son years ago(He's 43 now). Had a handle on the knives but was never too sure about the arrowheads unless I picked them up myself. Funny thing about that is a few years ago we had some jerk pepper the old Jackson Marble site with marbles that weren't suppose to be there. So you never know. My buddy Ron provided some background info. about those interloper marbles at the end of my article on Jackson Marble Co. at the website joemarbles.com. While you're there check out my article "How 'Bout Them Marbles." It's a kick! David Chamberlain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Hi Bruce. Welcome! I joined your site - two of them I guess - on Facebook last night. Be seeing you around! -s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHudson Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Well guys i guess im the stupid one this time.I won the bid on the marble in question.I never trusted pics to much and still learning the ropes on somethings.Its a long road to travel,Im not to familure with some of ebays fakers yet.I guess im gonna see the thing close up now.If the marble is a fake it will be the first time ive been had.Some people you just cannot trust.I mess around with arrowheads and such and been doing that for 35 years and they also have them fakers out there.Think i need to show up here more often.And get some friends going here. Ive read the post here and i will say this to everyone.I dont have any connection with this guy other than i won the bid on the marble.I used the pic he had because i won the bid and have been messing around for a banner for the site.I do live in Louisville,Ky and started the marble club to learn myself and have other involved around the area that also want to learn and enjoy the hobby. I myself cannot get enough of it being back in it again.I hope all will join that want to.I guess im out the 71.00 now. Have a laugh on me guys.See ya Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHudson Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Hi Bruce. Welcome! I joined your site - two of them I guess - on Facebook last night. Be seeing you around! -s here is the link that is not facebook but all new please pass it around http://bluegrassmarblecollectors.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orbboy Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 You should return the marble and leave Neg feedback. Bout time someone did for this guy. Don't even give him a chance to explain because it will be a crock of crap. Neg him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHudson Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 On the site im thinking i will have a page of all known fakers to help the new collectors and also have others help me add to the list. What do you think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleus1 Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Hi Bruce, try a return and the feedback thing. but $71.00 aint a killer. The bum got me for much more in his beginnings. hes a theif theres many kinds and he is one.. Welcome to the board a high end contemporary/vintage brought me here some 6 or 7 yrs back and what lill I know bout marbles was defined here. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba1 Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 ebay is super buyer friendly----if he won't give you a refund, then open a case, return it with delivery confirmation and ebay (paypal) will give you a refund. d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolbrezz Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Bruce, I sure am glad that you are who you are! I am the one that joined earlier today! So now I have another place to hang out sometimes! After I joined and looked around, I saw that picture in question. And felt that you were the bad guy! I apologize for that! By the way my mother was born in Louisville! I think all of us should join that responed to this post!Yea??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHudson Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Hi Bruce, try a return and the feedback thing. but $71.00 aint a killer. The bum got me for much more in his beginnings. hes a theif theres many kinds and he is one.. Welcome to the board a high end contemporary/vintage brought me here some 6 or 7 yrs back and what lill I know bout marbles was defined here. David Im thinking mabie this will keep anyway and it will be the one to use as an example at the shows.To show people that fakes are out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHudson Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Bruce, I sure am glad that you are who you are! I am the one that joined earlier today! So now I have another place to hang out sometimes! After I joined and looked around, I saw that picture in question. And felt that you were the bad guy! I apologize for that! By the way my mother was born in Louisville! I think all of us should join that responed to this post!Yea??? Thanks and all are welcomed.After all we cannot have a show if we dont have people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Marbles Posted May 29, 2010 Report Share Posted May 29, 2010 Pavecraz is at it again, Ebay Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted May 29, 2010 Report Share Posted May 29, 2010 priceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleus1 Posted May 29, 2010 Report Share Posted May 29, 2010 I keep most of my mis- buys for one reason or another David quote:"Well guys i guess im the stupid one this time" I'd have to disagree simple ignorance, and looks like ur well on the way to rectifing that lack of. Now for stupid, hang out and watch my dumbass work. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orbboy Posted May 29, 2010 Report Share Posted May 29, 2010 I wonder if he works at a rubber stamp company? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted May 29, 2010 Report Share Posted May 29, 2010 That is the worse one I have seen. The top doesn't even fit the bottom and for anyone to believe that was a marble box something is really wrong!!!! More money than brains comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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