m!b$ Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 What is the definition? I have one (upper right) and a couple others in the picture have some translucency, especially around the perimeter, but they look different from the other one. Bottom right one is completely opaque, for comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 I'm under the impression that when you backlight a pelt submarine it's supposed to look close to transparent. Other than that and the basic blue and red/orangey colors, I don't know the "definition". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m!b$ Posted January 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 OK Orbboy, where are you, I got that marble from you a few years ago and you said it was a submarine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjohn691500 Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 ok my 2 pennys if you will, i believe the subs have a translucent blue base as opposed to an opaque base,i had one at one time but cant find it now, its a memory thing sorry,, bj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orbboy Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Hey I remember that one. I posted it for an I.D since I'm not a Pelt-pro, and Sub was what I got. I do remember that it was one odd little Pelt. Lots of transparent blue if I remember correcty, and the red is just on the surface. All the rest was under the surface covered with the trans blue with larger fissures of that blue sinking right to the middle of the marble. I can't remember if when back lit you could see through it? I think I remember some bubbles as well? I might have the auction pics of it. However I lost hundreds of pics when my harddrive died a few months ago. All I was able to pull off it was the back-up files and I'm not sure if it is in there. I'll look. Is it a Sub? Might be? There is Sub stuff in it LOL. A Pelt pro might be better to ask than me. I'm an Akronut. I'll dig for the pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m!b$ Posted January 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 There is very little transparent. It is translucent blue around most of the perimeter, with the center being pretty much opaque. The red is only on the surface, and the translucent blue causes the dark outlines around the red ribbons. There is no color sinking into the blue, as far as I can tell. Peltier made lots of transparent marbles with colors sinking into the transparent, so that would make submarines pretty common, right? And it's my understanding that they are quite unusual, like this Spiderman is. I bought it several years ago, and if you got the id for it on this board, that would mean some of those Pelt people who were posting here back then, must've given it to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARBLEMISER Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 This one was sold by Alan, as a Sub. It's the first time I saw a Green based Sub. It sold for $102.00 here is a Blue based version also it sold for $249.00 in 9.7 condition Hope this helps. I only saved the one view of each. marblemiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machinemades Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 I know of blue base with orange/red ribbons, green based with orange/red ribbons Submarines. They look opaque until backlit, which reveals a transparent base. I also know of Wasps with transparent red base when backlit and black aventurine ribbons. That could place them in Submarine category I guess. These are definitely early NLR type marbles not later Rainbos. Late Rainbos have many types that would be similar in construction but not in final result. Sami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Racer Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 m!b$, that is not a sub in your pics. I'm seeing NLR Superboys. The blue is very translucent to transparent in a real sub. The blue one in post #7 does look like a real sub, but it is hard to see just how simi-transparent it is in the pic. I think I might have a better pic, let me look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Racer Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Here it is at 5/8 and sporting a few blowouts common in pelts. You can see the pure blue almost water-like transparency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 This is the best type IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m!b$ Posted January 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 If mine isn't a sub, what is it? It deserves a name! I think it beats any old sub in appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machinemades Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Mibs, Just for clarification you requested, I am not sure how many marbles are there, but your first post shows all Spidermans,if they are not transparent. I don't think there is any question there. Hope this answers your question. Sami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marboman Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 If mine isn't a sub, what is it? It deserves a name! I think it beats any old sub in appearance. m!b$,You need to manage your expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m!b$ Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Well, if you saw the other side of two of them, you would see that the top left one is a Superboy, and the bottom right one is a Superman...but I meant about the top right one, it is SO much more attractive than any ordinary Spiderman on an opaque base. I still maintain that it deserves a special name, like Super Spiderman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marboman Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 It is magnifcent, Does it have a burnt look on the trans base? Your avatar cracks me up:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m!b$ Posted January 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 The red is somewhat brownish around the edges, don't know if I'd call it burnt. And now I'm sorta confused about the upper left marble...I always thought it was a Superboy, but it has no blended yellow, just what you see in the photo...the other sides are pretty much the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marboman Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 I see orange and red in that one.I have red transparent,but no Blue,after seeing your Super Spiderman I may have to go digging.Dought I find any thing like yours in a NLR,Very cool marble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARBLEMISER Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Since this one is listed as a Sub. It has been up on BIN for several weeks. It doesn't look like one to me? Maybe that's why it's still on the Bay? http://cgi.ebay.com/Marbles-Peltier-Submarine-082910-6AU-/200559495311?pt=Marbles&hash=item2eb247088f marblemiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 I'm also curious about that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobandPat Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 The one just posted by marblemiser is a sub IMO. The base blue can vary from extremely dark like the one Galen posted and the one I have to a more medium color. Some also seem to be more dense and stringy than others, letting less light through. The red ribbons are typical Peltier running dark red through the oranges, yellows and burnt colors. Most of the ones I have seen in hand are more of the medium blue with the lighter blended red ribbons... I am curious what others have observed though. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venwood Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 This thread got me looking at my older looking glass peltier again. I was sure these were older but never new what to think about them until now. First two rows across plus first two third row have that blue base that will let light thru it but you would think opaque until you put up to light. Third row last two have a green base that you can get light thru. Some of these let thru more light than others. Thanks to all replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orbboy Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 Ok I found a pic. A pretty crappy one from when a Sony Macava was a good camera. Is this the one? It looks like I remember with the bubbles and all. The blue is transparent at least to the depth of the deepest part of the bubble. The one bubble is pretty shallow, the other a bit deeper. It has been a few years since I saw it, and info changes all the time in this hobby. At the time all the Pelt gurus were in fact around, and that's what they dubbed it. By now-a-days info does it still fit? Sorry for the crappy pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 This thread got me looking at my older looking glass peltier again. I was sure these were older but never new what to think about them until now. First two rows across plus first two third row have that blue base that will let light thru it but you would think opaque until you put up to light. Third row last two have a green base that you can get light thru. Some of these let thru more light than others. Thanks to all replies. All Rainbos. Nice set. Later than Submarines. Don't know which decade. 30's to 60's? Could be earlier Rainbos, but still later than NLR's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marboman Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 This looks like some of the marbles I've seen in this thread.Colors are different Yellow ribbons,deep amber base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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