Marlene Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Just wondering what this Marble King would be called. Oops, I might have posted in the wrong place. SORRY Not going to redo this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted April 27, 2014 Report Share Posted April 27, 2014 If that's green I think it's a Girl Scout with oxblood. If it's teal, then a Kato. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome Punter Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 That's a Blended Ox girl scout its pretty keep it. MKs have taken a dive over the last 4 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Sorry but I see no Oxblood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleDawg86 Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Did marble king ever really have oxblood? I was pretty sure they just had red or sometimes red that was blended that gave the illusion of another color... Not sure if I would call any of it, that I've seen, oxblood. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome Punter Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Sorry but I see no Oxblood Oxblood is red glass. Temperature effect usually....not always though Pelt has oxblood but it is a bit different than akro. It's supposed to be red and gets an actual dried blood color. MK, same thing, they make red then, at times, you get an oddball color to the red that is called oxblood. The problem is (No slight to my friend Galen of course) is tunnel vision. Look at a brick and look at an Akro milky or silver ox. the color is SIMILAR but not the same, but both are Oxblood. A brick, to me, is the TRUE oxblood color as I understand what a color pallet is and while i prefer Akro over it, those are "similar" but the effect is more like blood on water and I like that look better. Oxblood is a shade of red, nothing more. This is oxblood Posted Yesterday, 06:54 PMDid marble king ever really have oxblood? I was pretty sure they just had red or sometimes red that was blended that gave the illusion of another color... Not sure if I would call any of it, that I've seen, oxblood. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdesousa Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Gnome, you're forgetting it's not that simple. From a thread you started: http://marbleconnection.com/topic/18628-slag-surprise/ akronmarbles Member Members Posted 08 October 2013 - 08:21 AM Nice American Cornelian marble. Red slags (Akro red slags, Cerise agates, etc) were colored with selenium - true 'oxblood' glass as known from MFC and Akro is made from copper - there is no continuum between the two. Copper ruby requires very specific heat treatment to develop the color on a predictable basis. Good information here as well: http://marbleconnection.com/topic/5371-oxblood/ Unfortunately the links and pics don't come up. Steph? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Thanks Hansel for bringing that up, And Gnome, when it comes to OXBLOOD GLASS and glass with an oxblood color we are talking two different things. This helps keep an already fairly muddied topic from getting even more muddied. Oxblood colored glass is not necessarily Oxblood Glass. Although there are some very early Marble kings that have a very Oxblood looking streamers in one of the patches it does not even appear as genuine OXBLOOD GLASS . Spidermen being the most common. And yes many marbles made by German makers MFC and Akro purposefully made an OXBLOOD GLASS. I also believe that on occasion a true Oxblood Glass can be accidentally formed usually in association with a blue-turquoise glass color. I do not believe that is OXBLOOD GLASS on that MK. And it does seem you are saying any Oxblood colored glass on marbles should be called Oxblood. That just not the case. We need to have a line some where. Calling it Oxblood colored glass works for some folks but I do not even like seeing that. No blinders on here Gnome. Just an almost 30 year collector trying to keep his hobby getting even more confusing an muddied for new and even old collectors than it already is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 To me it looks like copper-based red glass -- the kind which may show with greater frequency in aqua glass. I think copper or cupric oxide or whatever the right term is, was used in making the green glass and it manifested itself as what we call oxblood on Akros. Sorry, Hansel, I think those links and pix are gone for real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlene Posted May 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 ...what she said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Steph, Akro made Oxblood glass on purpose from batches of minerals and chemicals. Your post makes it seem you think Oxblood at Akro was an accident from making green glass?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 I think that others accidentally made what Akro made on purpose. Copper-based ingredients were used for oxblood and they were used for glass of other colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 I think not only MFC -Akro or old German marbles do have oxblood glass. Here are some Euro swirls which i think have oxblood glass.And i think it's made on purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'llhavethat1 Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Yay! another oxblood discussion I also believe that on occasion a true Oxblood Glass can be accidentally formed usually in association with a blue-turquoise glass color. To me it looks like copper-based red glass -- the kind which may show with greater frequency in aqua glass. INteresting Sorry, Winnie - a lot of people wouldn't call that oxblood (from the pics anyway) still pretty marbles though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdesousa Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 I think that others accidentally made what Akro made on purpose. Copper-based ingredients were used for oxblood and they were used for glass of other colors. Oxblood's been around for a long time. Ancient glass beads and ceramic glazes have oxblood, otherwise known as sang de beouf. http://books.google.com/books?id=a8W2AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA775&lpg=PA775&dq=sang+de+boeuf+glass&source=bl&ots=pFeGn5MSA9&sig=7fiaV6kWoSImRPOpbkmvN80jh-o&hl=en&sa=X&ei=udJiU_bRJ62yygHP8YCQAg&ved=0CGMQ6AEwCg#v=onepage&q=sang%20de%20boeuf%20glass&f=false Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted May 1, 2014 Report Share Posted May 1, 2014 Yes. I didn't mean to say that Akro was the only one who made it intentionally. I just meant that some people accidentally produced what others made on purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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