lstmmrbls Posted July 19, 2015 Report Share Posted July 19, 2015 Winnies pic is of the modern Asian 8 finger types that pop up on ebay as vintage all the time. Walmart marbles. At this point in time I also think Anns are as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted July 19, 2015 Report Share Posted July 19, 2015 But an Imperial with a pigtail is a pretty cool beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted July 19, 2015 Report Share Posted July 19, 2015 for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sclsu Posted July 19, 2015 Report Share Posted July 19, 2015 Found this today out on the hunt. I believe it is called a scenic China, and was intended for the heads of canes, hence the hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 Neat porcelain cane head, Not really a scenic china. That is a marble term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sclsu Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 Neat porcelain cane head, Not really a scenic china. That is a marble term.so if it didn't have the hole? I was looking at some pics in marble mania that were labeled scenic china, which is where I got the term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Different construction and material than a scenic china marble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hack Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Hi, I've never posted but I read the site once in a while. I've got an oddity that has me stumped. It's about 2 1/4", ground pontils and a chrysalis shaped oxblood core. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaMarble Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Looks like a contemporary handmade to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hack Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 It's definitely old, I've seen similar patterns on 19th century glass. Nailsea I think it's called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaMarble Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 I'm not disagreeing by any means because I don't have the marble in hand but what about it tells you that it is old? The pontils don't look quite right to me to be a 19th century piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted July 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 I had a Nailsea glass flask at one time, similar to the one below. But to my knowledge marbles were never made like this -- the size would argue against it too. Even the big old Germans were really shelf-pieces. I'd guess that if it's old, which I'm not sure of, it would be a fancy piece by a Nailsea artist, or something like that -- I don't see any oxblood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'llhavethat1 Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 It's definitely old, I've seen similar patterns on 19th century glass. Nailsea I think it's called. Welcome! Cool pattern on that marble. It might be old(er), but might not be from the same era when the cane cut marbles were made in Germany (which is probably what most people on this site would consider in the 'old' category) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hack Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 The reason I think it's old is the design. It's on the outside of the globe, almost an imprinting as you can feel the actual pattern. The core is oxblood which is only visible by illumination. I've had this marble?for a long time, at least 35yrs. I assumed it predated the German handmades. I thought it could be a part of some sort of lamp or candlestick. Another thing is the weight , it's extremely heavy for a marble that size. It's also not perfectly round. I'm open to any ideas. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'llhavethat1 Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 I think I see what you mean by illumination in your first pic. 2"+ marble is going to have some weight for sure. I wouldn't have considered part of a lamp or candlestick but who knows? The pattern is nice. 35+ years gives it a bit of history. The precision of the pattern would have been very difficult to achieve in a marble pre-dating the time when most of the handmade German marbles were made 100+ years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hack Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 I remember the pattern in hand blown German Christmas ornaments, or something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted July 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 I agree with "The precision of the pattern would have been very difficult to achieve in a marble pre-dating the time when most of the handmade German marbles were made 100+ years ago." I don't believe it would have been made in Germany during the time frame of the old Germans, or before. I don't know where else was making glass marbles then. Generally they were being made of agate. Regardless of the decoration -- which I just cannot see as old (1800s) -- I wouldn't call it a marble. Sphere, orb, something of that nature, maybe. But then I don't call anything over 1 1/4" a marble anyway. Too big to play with. And just a note: To some of us ancients, 35 years isn't that long ago! Modern glass artists started making marbles (and orbs and spheres) at least 20 years before that! I even have a few of them. But it certainly is an interesting glass thing, whatever it is, and attractive! The oxblood in the middle is a real puzzler . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hack Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 Thanks for the input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted July 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 Would you see if you could take a picture with a bright light down through the open "pole" so we can get a better look at the oxblood core? That would be interesting, and I would guess it might be able to tell us something about the piece -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hack Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 I'll give it a try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 Sorry to disagree but it is not old IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sclsu Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Anyone know what these are? I thought candle stick holders, but it only seems to balance with the opening face down. Couldn't find them in the akro book, so I have rule them out as the maker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Cigar-cigarette lighters and they are not Akro. They are missing the cord and lighter. Here is one that never got used. Mica bottom and a gravity switch that turns it on when you turn it upside down, Feels like a ball bearing rolling in it for the switch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sclsu Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Awesome thanks for the info. I will have to go back to find the rest of the pieces. Any idea on who did make them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadely1212 Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Found this today out on the hunt. I believe it is called a scenic China, and was intended for the heads of canes, hence the hole. 2015-07-19 15.55.35.jpg2015-07-19 15.56.07.jpg http://www.marblecollecting.com/app/download/7114665084/CAT1110-Final.pdf check out lot 113 here is something similar that sold at auction a few years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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