boris64 Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 Would that be considered a sparkler? That set of rainbows does not have a name on the box. Is it legitimate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroorka Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 Pelt Rainbos did show up quite a bit in unmarked “Jobber Boxes”. I posted a more common one below. You can just make out the pink color next to the faded along with the embossed design. An image of the top of your box will help to determine authenticity. There are some larger “Sparklers” floating around that do not have the desired number of colors in them. As I recall these were all dug from the plant gounds. Yours may also be a “Foreign made Sparkler”. Nice way to display Rainbos! All opinions are welcomed. Marble—On!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boris64 Posted November 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 Ok. Great!! Thanks!! I put them in a display! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 I've got a couple of 7/8 that are quite similar too that one, Boris...if I remember correctly, mine had a little more color too them, but construction was really close. I think the initial thoughts on mine were Master if I remember correctly... @Chad, I think you have one too? I'm not at home too share any pictures and don't have the time too find the threads. Nice marbles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Posted November 19, 2022 Report Share Posted November 19, 2022 19 hours ago, William said: I've got a couple of 7/8 that are quite similar too that one, Boris...if I remember correctly, mine had a little more color too them, but construction was really close. I think the initial thoughts on mine were Master if I remember correctly... @Chad, I think you have one too? I'm not at home too share any pictures and don't have the time too find the threads. Nice marbles! My posts regarding the marbles that I have that are similar, I posted in the ID thread November 13th and 14th last year. Sorry, not home yet too provide fresh pics and it's not allowing me to transfer the images from that thread to here...I think I titled it Master's Cats Eye... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad G. Posted November 19, 2022 Report Share Posted November 19, 2022 THinkin yours is an example of a Euro type sparkler, although not that colorful still one IMO, I could be mistaken, maybe a few more pix of just the seams to make sure if you could ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 Here's one of mine....7/8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 The other, also 7/8... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff54 Posted November 20, 2022 Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 22 hours ago, Chad G. said: THinkin yours is an example of a Euro type sparkler, although not that colorful still one IMO, I could be mistaken, maybe a few more pix of just the seams to make sure if you could ?? I spy yellow and hints of blue maybe, hints green maybe too, and white. This marble, you've clipped out of boris64 's photo, I think is an big Akro. There are Big Akro's that were dug-up at factory and contain 2-3, even 4 or more colors that Sparklers have and lean to pastel flavors. White and yellow and or or blue and white and some with light blue with white and yellow like mine, is usual. I think there's some where green can exist with white and one or all of the colors too. Most of those would have Oxblood on em and a few did not. They have the inner characteristics of a big Sparker, but just did not have the full color spectrum the 5/8" usually do. I think this marble appears to be one where I would make a comparison to this yellow on a Sparker before putting it to rest as a Euro. . I do have what I am referring to, in fact, one of each; with and without oxblood. My oxblood verity only has light blue inside and it doesn't even have a Sparkler type core yet many others do .. Apologies as I do not have photo to show currently and it's going to be a while before I will photograph for show and tell. I got a bunch of other marbles to do, in line, back logged until I can get my camera balanced properly, ahead of it. However, I think somebody probably has photographed the big ones in clear and oxblood on them. Most are just about like that, while only a few may be availed without oxblood. Cut lines are straight, sparkler core and at least one of the various pastel colors or just white is probable. That may key this in for positive. The more I look at this photo, the more it looks just about the same as mine without oxblood. . Albeit, mine has a tiny hairline, where it may have wanted to get oxblood, but does not look as such where color could say 'horsehair oxblood' rather, more like a burnt hairline coloration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boris64 Posted November 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 Here are some more pics .... I found these with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 5 hours ago, boris64 said: Here are some more pics .... I found these with it Hey there, Boris....how about some close ups of some of those other mibs in the baggies. Your marble does appear too resemble the 2 I shared. Jeff is thinking Akro with yours...shoot, I'd be happy with that to 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad G. Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 5 hours ago, boris64 said: Here are some more pics .... I found these with it Could ya post an average size on these also David ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 These are 1 and 1/8ths European Sparklers. I thought I’d throw these in the mix even though they aren’t 7/8ths 🔥 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 On 11/20/2022 at 9:05 AM, William said: The other, also 7/8... William, yes, yours look Master. A 1950's version which were sometimes sold under the label of cat's eye when in Master packaging. They were also more famously jobbered by Alox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 Boris, I'd consider Master for yours also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 Sparklers used to all have five or six colors. But smaller numbers of colors were found in Akro Sparklers. So the name sparkler has opened up wide so it fits many marbles now. Sparkler name lost a lot of its meaning and value. Lots of cat eye marbles has turned into sparklers. You can probably label any marble above as a sparkler. The name does not mean a lot of money or much value any longer. Sparkler prices or values now can range from $2.00 to $200.00. Sparkler name used to mean a good $75.00 to $150.00. It is a much bigger lot to pick from now and a big range of prices or value. Call them Sparkler or Cat Eye or vaned marble or make a brand new name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boris64 Posted November 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 Well I like master cat eye the best! As for size two are shooters the rest are 7/8 or15/16 but the rocks .... I have lots of them . Never back lit them . My best one is my meteor!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff54 Posted November 23, 2022 Report Share Posted November 23, 2022 Yeah, on this one @7/8" I still can't rule out as an Akro and what I thought might be blue in there, like mine has, I cannot see anymore. I was not sure I saw green in your other photo but sure enough that's there while mine doesn't have green.. The difference in the euro or possibly French verities is that they are found larger than 7/8" and how they are cut at the polls are usually pointy. Regular sizes are much the same but it seems; 'The bigger the better' because they can have more colors, feathers etc.. Now I cannot say it looks as close as my white, yellow and light blue Akro as the previous clipped photo did is, as mine is more of a solid core sparkler verity. However, the similar with a nice oxblood patch I have, from Akro dig, only has a few slivers of blue without solid core style. So, like I said; whether oxblood or not, they are the same, run, as it were, 7/8" marble. They will not have a pointy cut off as the Euro does but an obvious strait too maybe a slight curved one. So, in your case look for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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