Steph Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 Anyone have any favorite horsehair oxbloods they could share? Insight into what all goes by that name? Some is actually ox, right? some could be other company's bricks or browns? thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Oregon Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 I heard the term 'horsehair oxblood' used shortly after I started collecting about 10 years ago. It was explained to me that it was a very thin line of oxblood, usually on swirl type marbles. Since that time, I have also heard people use the term 'oxhair' (combining the two...?). Anyway, the horsehair oxblood seems to be primarily on Champion and Alley type of swirls and some that are probably Heaton (I think Ron Shepherd mentioned Heaton had some). Here's a pic of some of mine - ignore the ones near the top and top right that are obviously not horsehair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Dog Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 I've heard it used with the Japan Transitionals too. Not sure if it is correct though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 Al,my best guess from pics. horsehair oxbloods row 1 -2 = Alley, Alley row 2 -3 = Alley,Ravenswood,(maybe Alley),Ravenswood (maybe Alley). row 3 -3 = Heaton,Champion,Alley row 4 -4 = Alley,Champion,Champion,Champion. row 5 -3 = Champion,Champion,Champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyzora Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 Could this be one, or is it something else? The 2 german sparklers have thin lines of deep red, would you call this oxblood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carole154 Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 I don't know about oxblood but here is a neat horsehair. Or I think it's neat. carole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 That is indeed neat Carole. Delicate. Lovely. Your first sparkler sure looks like ox from here, Zora, and the 2nd looks close enough that I'd say yes based on your in-hand hunch that it is. The swirl ... does look like what I thought might be called horsehair when it was in a pistachio base, even though it doesn't look like actual ox to me. I think I was probably wrong about what I thought was horsehair ox on the two examples I used to have. It was thread-like, but distinctly brown, not a hint of brick or red. Thanks everyone for the input and examples! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 Zora, please ignore my answer. All I know is sparklers can have what folks call oxblood, and to me yours look like they do. Both of them. As to the swirl, I can't tell. I shouldn't have tried to answer. Hopefully someone else will play clean up for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyzora Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 Thank you Steph for your answer, I am always interested to hear others thoughts or opinions on different marbles. A lot of things seem confusing to me, or inconclusive and maybe that's because they are. It is a shame sometimes that people don't give their thoughts because they may not be sure, then if no one does, without discussion it remains a mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 What's confusing me on yours ... it looks like the right color, but it seems as if I can see through it. Ox shouldn't be transparent. Now I'm wondering ... is it in particles? (does that question make any sense?) Little pixels of oxblood could give the right color, and then if there are minute separations between the particles that could give transparency. oh brother ... I'm going out on a limb this time. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest browse4antiques Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 I've included a pic of the type that I always thought was "horse-hair-oxblood". The other kind, I throught was referred to as a "line-oxblood", as in my second pic (maybe they are two variants of the same marble). Regarding "oxblood" in German sparklers, I don't think any of the "oxblood" looks just like the MFC oxblood - there are several different shades that were used - some more purplish, and some more redish, some completely opaque, some translucent. So, for the German sparklers, I think any dark red accent color has come to be called "oxblood". ...Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marboman Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Great thread! I have some horse hair or line oxbloods ,I didn't know what to call them.Thanks Bo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'llhavethat1 Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Horse-hair oxblood as far as I know, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Cool. That's what I was wondering about on a couple of my old marbles. The thread on the marble at the left is not a brick-y tone. Mine were more like that one. I wondered if that was also called horsehair oxblood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyzora Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 That blue one looks amazing, is there a close up of it on it's own? Hoping I understand oxblood correctly now, as a colour made by only MF Christensen but sometimes referred to as oxblood if a similar colour appears in other marbles. Under a (cheap x10) eyeglass my one looks like the thick strand is made of lots of thin strands close together and almost looks like painted on the surface by a shaky hand. It doesn't look translucent but some of the white is translucent. No idea whether or not it is a horsehair oxblood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m!b$ Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 This is my horsehair collection (not sure about the second to last one in bottom row), and my guesses as to what they are. I'd like confirmation on the ids, if possible. Ravenswood, Champion, Alley, Champion Champion, Alley, Alley, Ravenswood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'llhavethat1 Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 That blue one looks amazing, is there a close up of it on it's own? Best I can do for now Some nice 1's there m!b$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SplattmanSS Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marboman Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Horsehair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Horsehair? IMHO yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 Hoping I understand oxblood correctly now, as a colour made by only MF Christensen but sometimes referred to as oxblood if a similar colour appears in other marbles. I can answer this part. Akro's oxblood is the real deal. Akro is the one I've seen used as the standard for what is 'real' oxblood. I believe there are marbles from multiple makers with 'real' oxblood though. This includes MFC's and handmades. And now Jabos :-) And sometimes I think it occurs accidentally. Some people don't like to credit the accidental occurences as real oxblood. Others celebrate them. And then with some makers, yes there are oxblood-like colors which are clearly not 'real' but which are sometimes called that maker's version of oxblood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Marie Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 Here's one of mine, and I think two....... P.S. great threads Steph.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Very good on your group id,M!D$. I agree with all but maybe the last one lower right,may be Champion. These are difficult to do by pictures,due to the many different shades of green used,plus seperating the dark red from browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest browse4antiques Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 A similar marble can be found with blue instead of oxblood. 6 different marbles in the pic. ...Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 A similar marble can be found with blue instead of oxblood. isn't that cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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