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Alley on the bottom. Handmade on the top, but I wouldn't know how to guess by whom. Any identifying marks on that one? In the upper row of four, #2 is a Peltier Rainbo. Maybe Jabo on left and right? If that left one is in the 5/8" range then that's a rather busy pattern for a Jabo that small if it is a classic, but I don't have any other guess. #3 has some nice bright white, which makes me think it's vintage but no guess for maker. On the bottom row of four, maybe Vitro Whitie on #2. Maybe a Pelt patch on the right. I kept trying to say Vitro but my mind couldn't settle on that, and then it occurred to me that it had a good chance of being Pelt.
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Fun! Sorry they closed.
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I just got these today . Any help would be greatly appreciated
Steph replied to boris64's topic in Marble I.D.'s
Nice. Left to right ... Top row: #1. colors look Akro or Christensen to me, #2. WV swirl -- I'll guess Ravenswood, #3. Akro Popeye, #4. I'm leaning Vitro 2nd row: #1. Vitro Tri-lite, #2. Akro Prizename, #3. Peltier Multicolor Rainbo, #4. Peltier Spiderman 3rd row: #1. I am wondering if it could be Christensen, but I do not know at all, #2. Alley flame, #3. I'm torn between Marble King and Peltier, #4. Peltier John Deere Bottom marble: Peltier Rainbo -- I was going to say Sunset family, but it might be earlier than the typical Sunset, and might have a different name. (Might be NLR era, like your Superman, John Deere and multicolor Rainbo.) -
very nice looking
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I always look for cross-through cat's eyes ... but those are still relatively common. In the cat's eye category, the Vitros with 8 vanes appear to be considered special.
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I cannot tell if that is a pontil or other early marble feature, or where a machine-made marble got hung up on the machinery.
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I wanted to say Akro on #1 as a two color patch with long seams. But the white underneath is holding me back. I think Akro or Vitro. #2. West Virginia swirl. I should know which company but I don't. Maybe one of the swirl specialists will be by. #3. Alley #4. I think Jabo #5. Vacor de Mexico #6. Modern Asian, aka Imperial #7. Looks a little like #4, so maybe I should be thinking Jabo again, but I'm leaning WV swirl here.
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I'm between WV Swirl and wacky cork.
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oolala! A lot of sweet Akros. The middle column is Lemonades. The column to the left has what I think they call Cherry-ades. (If the one on top is a patch, not a swirl or cork, then stick with Moss Agate.) You have one Limeade in the column to the right of the Lemonades. I think on the top of that column could be an Onyx corkscrew. The bottom two may be called Lemonade Oxbloods. The third marble up in that column is a Peltier (maybe called a Dragon). The fourth marble up is an Akro, but I'm not seeing it closely enough to take a shot at a name. The reason I'm fuzzy on names like Cherry-ade is because to me those are all Moss Agates (because I think that's what Akro called them) and I just can't seem to get the collector's names to stay in my head for any of the ades other than the regular lemonades and limeades.
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That's the one.
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The hailing from Akron got me. They were only in Akron until 1914. Then moved to Clarksburg, WV. That's where they started making marbles. I enjoyed it overall. I disagreed with some of your dates, but I know that at least one prominent collector disputes me on Akro dates. At 10:45, you feature a Peltier in the Silver Oxblood section. There were some places where I thought, "uh oh, someone would quibble over those names," but quibbling over Akro is like an Olympic sport for mibologists. Can't be avoided. Even if you were MarbleAlan himself you could expect someone to quibble with you about Akro history and names. He was a good sport about that! I liked the Moss Agate comparison at the end. Oh, and the oxblood close-ups could be very helpful. I'm going to need to remember this when someone is struggling with recognizing oxblood.
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This is going to be slow-going, but I made a start today. Replaced the photos in post #2. Hopefully the rest will go faster now that I've gotten started. Thank you for the encouragement. Right now I'm putting the pictures straight into the posts without trying to do thumbnails. That could be hard to navigate, but for now that's how I'm leaving it.
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Keep the group together. Fantasy packaging isn't highly valuable but it is still of interest. More valuable together than mixed in with the rest of your marbles. ... unless looking at it just ticks you off! I would understand that reaction too.
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They could all be vintage. The mostly red cat's eye is a Vitro hybrid -- circa the 1960s. The big six-vane cat's eye is Asian. Probably not technically vintage but could be from 70's or 80's. The last marble could be an Alley Agate from the 1940's. The white one up top -- hard to say. Could be in the running for Akro Moonie, but I don't see enough of it yet. What does it look like with a strong light shining through it from behind? Not sure if the green and white is trying to be a simple swirl or a complicated patch. The big mulit-color swirly patch is a Vitro Parrot. It is a very popular marble style. Yours has condition issues. But with that wild pattern it's probably still a keeper. At least a place saver until you find cleaner examples.
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Probably Vitro. Not the main view I'd want to see to be sure, but yeah, probably.
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Are the single pictures big ones? Yeah, most if not all Jabo.
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Not by itself. UV glass can be old, new or in between. But together with other clues, it can matter.
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I don't want to be too much of a pain. The bulletin board resizes your larger pictures, you may have noticed. So if you have a lot of non-marble space around the edges, it can make the actual marbles pretty small. So, for future reference, trimming off the edges could be helpful. Or just moving in on the marbles until more of the viewscreen is filled with marbles to begin with. Okay ... so what do we have here? I think 2nd the left on the bottom row is one of your Akros. The one above it looks similar in coloring, but might be a West Virginia swirl. (I'm leaning strongly to WV swirl on that upper one.) The green one on the top row, second from the left, could possibly be a folded up Akro. Or maybe a Vitro. Or maybe a WV swirl but with a very simplistic pattern. The bottom right is similar. My first thought is WV swirl, but I suppose it's possible it could be an odd patch. WV swirls for the rest.
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Too big of a group, too small of views for the marble. And hard to identify which ones we're talking about. That said, the second row on the left appears to be a Peltier Rainbo. So does the marble on the right of the top row. I see at least one of the ones you're thinking could be an Akro Cherry Ade. I agree that at least one of them is Akro -- Row 4. I know that style as Moss Agate. I think it might have more than one possibly collector's name. Maybe some kind of Ade. One person I know might call it a Tomato Ace. I stick with Moss Agate, but I'm in the minority. Not seeing enough to make out anything useful about the green one.
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Akro on the green and red patches Do start a new thread which each new group. That will make it easier to get feedback ... and to keep track of the feedback.
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Cool box. The marbles are Jabo Classics.
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I guess Master on #8. No guesses on the swirls ... other than the general 'maybe Champion" or "maybe Alley" which means nothing.