Steph

Parts of the 2nd certainly have a corkscrew appearance to them ... does the ribbon do a full twist around the marble? The lighting is throwing me as noted in the other thread that I just commented on, but bases on the size and the busy-ness of the pattern, I think the 3rd could be Alley. The translucence of the base that's peeping out in the first has me wondering if it might be Akro but I don't have strong feelings about that.

Hi. It might be the bigger than usual view or something in the light, but my first thought was non-American. If American, I guess I might lean Akro, but I'm not getting that feeling at this time. Do you have any other Akro Tri-Color Agates patches you could photograph together with it?

Neato. Had to read up on those. Had seen 'em in pictures but never really thought about them.

I saw why the pearlized patch was hoped for from the group photo. I think it's a moss agate though.

^^ Vitro Tiger Eye

I think $10 is a good price for that. They appear to be common marbles. The larger marbles could be worth $10 total though. So if it's not something that you have to pay expensive shipping for, then $10 is good price for that great number of marbles. Plus, I like the other toys too.

Yay you! Good luck!

There is a LOT to learn. For what it's worth, I think I'm seeing common marbles in that group. But that's still a lot of marbles (and other toys) for the small price of $10.

Welcome. I'm not aware of PDF marble books. I look forward to hearing if anyone else knows of one. I would love to see some of the marbles that a collector can find in Portugal. Do you have any favorites?

Gonna say sweet Akro Onyx.

Solid Veiligglas. Pretty.

Oooh ... it's like solar flares I'm gonna say Veiligglas. In America I might have leaned toward Champion without thinking much about it, but knowing your location I'm feeling pretty good about Veiligglas.

More pics on the blue and yellow?

cool beans Curious now about what the buttons looked like.

I used to resist the new names. When I first started posting here, the forum leaders seemed against making up names without a very good reason, and there was rarely seen to be a good reason. I think the Peltier Angel and Citrus names may have been relatively new at the time. They were well-loved but they were exceptions. Then at AAM, the stigma against naming marbles seemed to have disappeared. Seemed some power players were involved in introducing a lot of new names I was in the surprisingly comfortable position of having to deal with the reality of an explosion of names but with no pressure to learn the names. Since I didn't post at AAM I didn't have much chance to learn the names, and so the pressure of dealing with the whole subject was off. P.s., I actually don't know when the Angel and Citrus names were adopted. Just a vague sense that back in 2005 or 2006 there was something exotic about the names. An excitement that felt new-ish. Might be fun to get some history on when the now-established names were introduced into the lingo. The Vitro Elite had been relatively newly named when I came onto the scene, and it seemed the name was catching on. The Elites were especially colorful Tri-Lites, but the Tri-Lite name wasn't well-known at the time. The Elite name caught on well enough to be featured in an article in the WVMCC newsletter in 2003. Then the Vitro company name became better known and the Elite name fell into disuse.

I posted this in another thread today. I'm adding it here, with permission from Joanne Singleton. This is sample box of early Masters is correctly filled. (I have also added this box to the original post in the thread, because I want it to be easy to find.)

No. Not a Cloudy. Cloudy is a single-color marble. That site is wrong. Somehow the big names in collecting (e.g., Alan Basinet and Bob Block) got way off track with Master's basic style definitions. Part of the messy evolution of figuring out the history of this little child's toy. And then after the first few years of production, Master marbles didn't match their own style definitions. Their marbles became less distinct and I don't think we can really figure out from the boxes they showed up in what Master would actually have called them in those later days. Collectors mess with their own heads trying to figure out if something is a Sunburst or some other name that they picked up from the mistaken definitions on Alan's or Bob's site. This is why I just say "Master" if it does turn out to be a Master and doesn't fit the original definitions. This sample case posted by Joanne Singleton is filled correctly with early Masters. But the percentage of marble collectors who recognize a Cloudy and know its Master name is very low.

We have a winner!

I'll go with annealing fractures. My guess would be that it was a temperature issue. Or maybe temperature combined with getting knocked around. I wouldn't guess mismatched COE's because surely the company would have gotten those basically right before they did the run.

If American then, Master. I wouldn't call it a cat's eye or even try to figure out a style name for it. I would just say "Master". However, it might not be American.

Mojo, I think Vacor on that two color one of yours. (And also on the first three.) Japanese on your white cross-through. I'd guess four of one color and two of another should count as uncommon to say the least but I can't really weigh in on that for Vacor. Vacor can do some really wild things. Having three nice clean pairs of vanes might actually be less common for Vacor.

Yep. There's a thing to note about the word "hybrid". In most marbles, it would be thought of as something unintentional. An Akro popeye, for example is supposed to have two colors plus white in a clear base. If there's an extra color it's thought to be accidental, probably happening when one color was running out and another color was being added. With Vitro, these multi-color cat's eyes were done on purpose. But still we call them hybrids.

The cross-throughs are all considered collectable. Yours is "just" a white cross-through, which is not too terribly hard to find in the normal 5/8" range. But at that size? Most definitely a keeper.

Does that white cross through? That would be fabulous at that size. Could be vintage Japanese ... or modern Mexican ... I'm leaning in the Japanese direction at the moment.