Chuck G

It just do not see pelt in it either. There are some Vacor swirls that look real similar, just a stab on my part. Chuck G

Jessica, you can blame me for this name. I found very few of these certain very different family types of this specific pelt. I call them: "Snow and Ice"--a clear transparent (must have SIX) external ribbons on the surface, note there are some found with the "Cross-Thru internal ribbons of white opaque, (but) the one mentioned above is on the HTF side of pelts to find, whereas the other one can be found with a little looking. additional note: with the mentioned one above the outer wide ribbon coverage is almost 80 to 90% coverage with small openings between. This is my opinion and name also because i feel that the VHTF pelts should warrent a name, whereas others may not think so. Chuck G--

Ric, very very nice group. Are they all (akro)??? Chuck G--

Ann, there is a lot of some great conversations on this family type of pelts. The "Tracer" type marbles came from our great friend in Ottawa, Gino Biffany who has left us. His name for this family type came thru his work at the phone company apparently from tracer wiring he worked with. He thought this would be a great name for pelts which had the second color along side the ribbons. He gets the credit for the "Tracer" type pelt marbles and i think most collectors accept this. O k, "Bloodie Mary"-a translucent/opaquish white base with transparent red ribbons, could be four to six ribbons and some may have av. also may have a swirl look to them This is my opinion and some may disagree. I look for lots of different types of the "Tracers", they are very nice. Chuck G--

Do not want to (ruffle) any feathers out there, but all three are Pelts. I have one or two exactly like the center one that give you the indication they sumwhat swirled but are actually a rainbo type coming out this way because of the fast turning rollers. I cannot see akro at all in these, even though (who knows what has been dug)? I find now and then the super bright yellow and or orange on a pure white opaque base has the color of CACs with their (electric) looking colors. Yes, (i think) peltier had some electric colors. A lot of collectors find these types and for them, like me, these colors stand out more and you want to attribute them to another maker. Did peltier have a glass formula for these electric colors (OR) did they acquire some electric cullet from a purchase from another company? Its all in the eye of the be-holder!! In my (opinion) they all three are pelts. OOPs my chicken foot stepped on a feather!!Chuck G--

Dave, thank you so much, now collectors do have an idea of whats being talked about and great photos to show them. These threads and discussions sure help to bring the west towards the east with great conclusions that are close to being the same. For me this is so much fun and i still learn from the forums. Great pelts and great photos. Chuck G--

Dave, very nice (red) marbles and photos. You see the internal ribbons on both. Do you all have a name for the left photo? I know there is a name for this one, but cant remember? Chuck G--

Gotta weigh in on this, and some may have other opinions, and i am talking (only) peltier marbles. "Wanna Bee"-a custard yellow deep translucent/opaquish base with six black ribbons, some may contain av, note,a darker yellow "Bumble Bee"-a bright defined bright yellow base with swirls or ribbons of black, some may contain black av "Neon Bee"- a neon yellow base (deep bright yellow translucent), with black swirls or ribbons of black, some av possible, per Dave "Bee Lantern"- a regular yellow base with black swirls or ribbons of black av, (NOTE) this example has (ONE) added green ribbon between the black ribbons, some black ribbons may contain av "Manderine or Poisen Bee"-a regular yellow base with black ribbons tracered with orange, some may have black av. "Honey Bee"- a transparent amber or (green?) base with internal ribbons of yellow. These are a few that i can think of for now, but can add to this after digging out my descriptive list i have compiled. Chuck G--

Fenton, stay after them and do not quit looking for them. I personally think the cat-eye collecting now, is still in its begging stages. I feel (once) a good book that identifies them better, this category will really go forward. I save (ALL) my odd and different types and have some that are super interesting to talk about. The av cat-eyes are very nice also. Buying cat-eyes are still pretty much reasonably priced and there are still some great cat-eye collectors out there. (SAVE) also the two, three, and four plus colored ones. Just my thoughts on this subject. Chuck G--

Steph, very nice and i like them also. Red transparent glass in the bases of peltier are not that easy to find. These can be found now and then with some looking. Two types i have found, internal cross-thru white ribbons and then the external white ribbons ribbons on the surface. You will find the other colored transparent base ones a little easier than red. Chuck G--

Look what is hid behind this piece of art work. Chuck G--

"Eyelashes"- dull glass shears on the machine??? Chuck G--

Hi John, drop me an e-mail please. Chuck G--

Might want to add this to the conservation. My good friend Ron Patterson who has passed away now started collecting these fiber optic spheres when they first came out into the market for purchasing. this has been a few years back, not sure, but he had got me interested in a few of them. Most production on these, in size, was between inch half to two inches in all the colors shown above. Now some rarer size types were up to four inches in diameter. Ron had collected all types and sizes, even some were tri-colored. Some colors are lot more rarer to find than other colors. I have some in my collection of all sizes, just to show them as examples. In most fiber optic marbles you can turn the marble to a position and look down thru the marble and see almost thru it. This is where the light signals ran from one end of the fiber to the other end. These look (kinda) like the pearlized patch on a peltier as a reference. Now for the pee-wee part of this subject, yes they made many pee-wees. The ones i know of came in a replacement set for a ring, you purchased a ring set with a half dozen different colored spheres to put the color desired in the ring. This is one part of the pee-wee subject and i am sure there are many more. I cannot tell on your photos if yours is one, looks to be, but having it in (hand) is much better. These are pretty interesting no matter what size you collect, as per say in the marble hobby having a few examples to discuss. I am not real sure on the exact date these hit the market and where they actually orginated from. Chuck G--

Gotta go with a pelt patch also. Chuck G--

John, I agree with Dave, pelt vib to me also. Chuck G--

Good post on the catagory of "Corals". I was reading and waiting for someone to add peltier to the mix and i see Al did. One more (not) mentioned was CAC, did they have an example of the "Coral" types also? These "Coral" type marbles fall into (for me) a generalized catagory of a certain color combination that varies from one company to another. We collectors have many of these examples in our collections made by (different) marble companies. Akro was not mentioned either, so did akro have a color palat that they made a color combo like the others? Did any of the marble companies actually have a (named) produced box of these? Expanding our knowledge with lots of conversations, photos, and provinance brings this great hobby forward with enthuasiam. Chuck G--

Hi members, been carving and creating in my work shop again. Chuck G--

Steph, good question, cant wait to see what the members have to say about this. Chuck G--

John, It very well could be a vitro (BUT) if it is, my question is what were they trying to make, which named vitro marble? I have had my mind changed many times before and keeping an open mind makes you want to learn more. Chuck G--

Alex, here is my take on the akro "Ringers". With various examples akro produced the corkscrews and along with that, they made patches that matched the corkscrews color combo. I have examples of these which match exactly on the colors. One of these is a purple "Ringer" with the patch marble that matches the "Ringer". Akro"Ringers"-a cloudy transp/transl base with (some) white whispyness and one single color, (mostly) opaque cork. I do have some (opinions) towards these and gonna wait till more provinance "rolls' out that is correct. I do remember a photo of a box of akro "Ringers" and maybe someone will post this photo for us. Certain "Ringer" colors are a bit harder to find than some of the regular colors. Hope this helps. Chuck G--

John, agree with Steph, mine are in the vitro family. Chuck G--

John, i have one or two like this and i have mine in the pelt family group, thats until someone can put it into another family. Chuck G--

I (think) they made these from the very small, like 7/16ths that came in a set for color replacements in a ring set, all the way up the the 4 inch diameter size. Thats what i know and have seen, and a few tri-colored ones also. I just remembered i have seen these that were made for buttons also. Chuck G--

OK, members finally got the photo i was trying to achieve for evryone. Now some may dissagree or with these findings but (with examples) here it is. Every peltier is on a (CLEAR) base. #1--single white opaque internal ribbons #2--two colored white and blue internal ribbons #3--three colored white red and blue internal ribbons #4a--four colored white red yellow and green internal ribbons #4b--four colored red white yellow blue (swirl type) #5--five colored red yellow white blue and green internal ribbons, note: the green and blue are togather I welcome all feedback to this. Chuck G--