Chuck G

Darla, i have found three types of pelt "Liberties". These may range from the swirl type to the plain four ribbon "rainbo" types. The easiest way is to just think red, white and blue or the orange ones also. then break them down to the time they were made, early or late. If you want more info just ask. Chuck G--

A very very nice thread, some real nice patches being represented. Chuck G--

Bill, no name as of yet. It looks to be a colored transparent "Sunset" type in that family. There are very few peltier names for the "Sunset" family type as well as the multi-colored swirls. A few names have been orginated due to the (rarity) of them. Chuck G--

My guess, OLD, could be an Alley swirl possibly. Chuck G--

Steph, you brought up a very fine point, is it a "rainbo" or possibly an "nlr"? I am still searching for an easy fine description of the characteristcs of an "nlr" verses a plain "rainbo". I would love to hear some great feedback to this, with MORE photos as examples. I love to see examples to back the ideas and conjectur with it. Chuck G--

Mon, there is a name for this example of pelt, (did not come from me) its call the "Bacon and Eggs". "Bacon and Eggs"- a tannish (kinda translucent base) with ribbons of yellow traced with white opaque. "Tracer" a family type with the translucent whiteish base with the colored opaque or transparent ribbons, traced with opaque white "Angels" a family type with the tannish base glass with opaque swirls of color, note: there are ribbon types of this also especially in the red and blue examples. I can see your point and thinking about it, you do have a point, (BUT) the "Angel" types differ from the "Bacon and Egg" types. The "Angel" types do not carry the tracer that rides along the other one making it a different type run. Peltier made millions of examples with this tannish base glass in many many run types. breaking these pelt types down and discussing them really helps to understand the many variations they produced. Chuck G--

Darla, where the actual adopted term for the pelt "Baseballs"came from, i have (no idea) where that term orginated from but was adopted well in the marble collecting community. As an orginal description for a family type it fits well, just like the seams on a real baseball. How they are constructed is where it may lie in this family type. Now for your orginal post on the light (pastel) like bases is well founded and worth a few comments. YES, there are many (lighter) versions of the base than just the white opaquish one. What happened in this process to get these types, who really knows (unless they worked that day of production) of where these lighter base versions came from. Many opinions and many conjectures to this. I have seen the pastel versions you have mentioned and MORE!! Just think Darla (HOW PRETTY) a baseball pelt would be with the pink base and black rainbo ribbons??? Chuck G--

Darla, you brought up a very good question on this subject. Let us see what some others have to say about it. Chuck G--

How about the Pride of the Prairie show here in Illinois. I think most of this is correct as i can remember. Dating back to the years, which this coming spring will be the 26th show here which puts the starting dates back to 1989 or close to that. At one time back in the late 70s i myself tried to do a little get togather for local collectors at one of the parks here. Attendence was minimual so i kinda dropped out of it and never got anyone else involved till my very good friend Guy Gregg and his neice Denise started the shows back up here in 89. After attending a few of these i asked him if i could assist him with the shows and he was estatic about the help. He done the networking and i done some foot work, getting our great city involved with the shows here bringing in some tax revinue for them. This helped tremendously until Guy passed away on us and i had to decide wheather to continue this show project all on my own. Done some serious thinking and decided to carry the shows here farther on into the future at many request. I asked at each show if everyone wants the two shows a year and at popular demand they do so as far as my health will allow WE WILL continue two shows a year. These time slots for them here is perfect for most who love to come and be with FAMILY and learn and buy quality marbles for thier collections. I will continue till the demand and attendence drops off and go from there. I truly love doing the shows and i can get to see some really close friends at least twice a year. Chuck G--

Here is a few (little) ones. Chuck G--

Maybe a few more!! Chuck G--

I agree with everyone on this one also. Chuck G--

Darla, (THINKING) pelt on this one. This looks like in (my opinion) a mini pelt peewee, smaller version of the "PPs" especially with the green transparent patch, (just like the "KoKo" comic pelt). Just my thoughts but i have been fooled before. Chuck G--

Another (PELTIER) project. Chuck G--

Mon, YES, its the "Phantom Superman". Chuck G--

Maybe a few more. Chuck G--

Gonna add a few more to this fantastic post, keep em coming. Chuck G--

It may be possibly a KOKO but still made on a peltier machine. Chuck G--

Hi Ann, yes most of them come in this color combo and blending. I have seen akro as well as master with these open (viewing into) windows also, (however) they have only ONE other color to the other part of the marble, NOT the duel color of peltier. This means that there could be other color combos of peltier "Windsheilds" also. Chuck G--

Nice pelt, and these are not that common, kinda reminds us of the realers but with ribbons. Chuck G--

Andrea, YES, a pelt "Windsheild" as they call it. You will find most of this type in the bigger size marbles. It has a base glass of different transparent colors including some clear base ones, now to classify it as this type or in the family, it has to have these colors to the wide ribbons (most of the time) on the surface and (has to) cover 70% of the marble and one open spot that you can see down inside that usually is the other 30% open. Hope this explains the marble better. Chuck G--

Hi Dan, welcome to the forum. You will find some great people and great knowledge here to learn from, welcome. Chuck G--

Happy Birthday, Duff may many many more "ROLL" your way. Chuck G--

Burt, (I THINK) maybe a run of the jabos when they done the patch and ribbons. I had a few sent to me when they done it as an experiment for height adjustment on the flow from the furnace to the shears. Ron S can shed more light on these if he sees this thread. Chuck G--

Steph, a very nice group and pretty also. Its hard to tell some of these with great photos and need to be in hand to get a better conclusion on who made them, let the swirl gurus decide who made them. Chuck G--