Chuck G

John, i see five that are Kokomo and five that are not. Very nice group for sure. Chuck G--

Hi everyone, thank you Jill, for posting some great photos of everyone and i do appreciate that, very good job. I think everyone had a great time and hope they will return. A quick run down of the show for those who might want to know. Dan Grocki and Dan Nauth showed up wednesday and we went out for dinner. Thursday afternoon around 13 rooms were taken and by friday around 25 plus rooms were taken, some on the list but some not. Sales was very good for some and not so good for others. Saturdays tables were all sold out and the foot traffic was ok but i thought a little light. Gino Biffanys talk on the pelt second runs went very well also with some interest in that. Next springs show will bring Ron S and the West Virginia swirl guys in to do a two day mini-talk show and tell on all the swirls from West Virginia. That is our plan for the spring show. A great variety of marbles could be seen and bought with some i even added to my collection. I am very pleased that everyone showed up and enjoyed themselves and the support of the show with all the regulars and the newbies who visited. I am posting a photo of some i got at the show and you can see what was available, enjoy!!! and thanks again everyone. Chuck G--

Great find Beth, and yes a few i would deffinitly add to my collection, good job. Chuck G--

Hi Jill, first HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! Here is my thoughts on the family of tracers. The four common types of them are from the easiest to the hardest is the red, yellow, blue and then green. These have a transluscent/opaquish base with the ribbons of the four colors mentioned with the white opaque ribbon edging the colored ribbons. There are more of these types in the similiar family but have varied color combinations to them. The tan one you posted(bacon and eggs as they call it) Is one of these types. As Bill says a bit harder to find. I have found other tracer types with different colors to the ribbons but i feel these still fall into the family of tracer types. Good post and a lot to learn on these types of tracers. Chuck G--

Hi members, been creating more works of art and a little carving to. Here is a photo of my marble canes and walking sticks. The newest is the brass and polished aluminum marble cane with 50 oxblood 3/4 shooters in it, hope you like. Chuck(aesthetes miborbologist)G--

Sorry, really need this one in hand for me to make a conclusion. Chuck G--

Just checking to see if the members are still looking and studing the pelts. Oh yes Bill, coming back to you and went to Ottawa to but nothing there!!! Got some of those you pictured last to. Hee Hee!!! Chuck G--

Can the members name who made all of these? Chuck G--

Good post everyone, and great photos. This helps everyone understand the peltiers a little better. Yes, Bill still after some of yours!!! I do have a nice group like Bill posted and i have found most to be the yellow and pink combonation. Chuck (aesthetes miborbologist) G--

Ric, yes i have seen a few pelts with the colors everyone is wondering about. The salmon color or pinkish colors are one of my favs. I have some production thoughts to this but until i can back it up with some documentation i will hold on thsi. Chuck G--

Hi BJ, both mibs are pelts all the way in my book. I might want to interject this also for your thoughts as you conjecture what the mibs might or could be. Remember that production for numbers was the goal for the profits for the company. Now during this time who knows what might have or could have been produced. Glass flow and color consistancy changed quite often during this time as well as the shear cuts and the blades getting off line. I have found marbles with this factor and can show you. Ron S may back me on these thoughts to. Examples of this can be found in broken nlr corks, peerless patches that cork, three if not sometimes four cut lines, weird colors sometimes, carry over colors from one run to another run (leftover glass in the furnace from the last run previous, these are just a few i can think about. I love the challenge to find these types. Chuck G--

John, sure looks pelt to me!! You might remember that when peltier produced their marble varieties they had some REALLY odd and messed up ones that just happen to "ROLL" out very weird. You might want to remember to that most everyone looks for the basic color schemes of a certain marble like the pelt liberty but that same color combo was on different base glass colors to, including clear. Chuck G--

Jill, nice score, and the tracer name is associated with peltiers as Gino B from Ottawa giving them their name. From the photo i can see around 9 or 10 pelts in the group. The yellow and brown types are or fall into the woody family from what most say. There are a lot of examples of woody type pelts around in very many color variations. I think these are very nice and look great in a pelt collection. Chuck G--

Happy Birthday Steph, may our Lords best blessings come your way. Chuck G--

Ric, i would deffinitly say you are right on never finding a mint marble but a total glass analysis is what i am after. That means from the vintage to the new, to the remelts, the polishing the buffing and hopefully comparing the old glass formulas to the new. I have already viewed some marbles with my cousins scope and for instance you can really defferienate what patina is and what it is. I have no thoughts of using it for evaluating the condition, just the analitical part of the glass. Cant wait to share my findings!! Chuck G--

Hi Honeybern, i have not got my electron micro scope set up quite yet either and as soon as i do maybe we can compare notes as we see the marbles much closer. My goal is to evaluate the glass itself much closer in many factors. Chuck G--

Ric, i am interested in what a few of the members have to say about this one to because i have a couple real similiar to it. Chuck G-

Thanks Griff and Bubba, for getting the word out to those who may want to come and join us. I have a few neat things planned and it will be a learning experience for sure. Hope to see everyone, and dont forget to get your reservations in the hotel early. Chuck G-

Bill, the photo looks like you are right at HOME!!! Art you are right, lots of prayers and support for those out east. Chuck G--

Hey Mibcapper, H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y buddy!!!!!! I see the land is still hot and very flat around your house yet!!!

Hi Steph, just wanted to see if any comments on these types of mibs and who, what and some good feedback by the members. A lot of them may be on vacations!! All three marbles have the same base color of orange and the first one is a Miller style pelt with av in the black and the base has a hint of strandiness in it to. Love to kick these all around and see what conclusions come out of it. Chuck G--

Hi everyone, i think this was discussed some time back and i wanted to take some photos and let everyone come to their own conclusion on these. I would love to hear what everyone thinks and try to come to some sort of an overall thought process on these. Chuck G--

Hi Ann, i want to personally thank you for your offer of sending it to me and letting me have a very good look at it. After i pick up my new micro scope i will have a close look at it and compare it to a pelt marble a friend of mine has that has a similiar base. I am going to stay sumwhat neutral on this till later and then give everyone my opinion. I feel anything is possible at the marble factories from the plant workers, the experimenters, and the special marbles made after hours for their kids at home. Everyone should keep an open mind and look outside the box every now and then and THEN seek and find proof if that is possible. If you think back to even the handmades starting with clouds which is internal to the marble and follow that type all they way down to the modern made ones (with the exception of akro) and MAYBE pelt that all of the makers played with confetti or flecking or frit to make their own style of the speckeled marbles. Even our world of contemporary makers have some of the most exciting colorful confetti marbles ever seen today as they EXPERIMENTED with their glass. Open discussing minds will find resolutions sooner or later. Proof and documentation is the ultimate goal and then we can take the ball all the way to the goal post for a touchdown. This is how i feel and my opinion!! Chuck G--

Hi Steve, sorry about the last post. You talked about the base glass and after reviewing the photos really close and reflecting back on some rarer pelts i have seen this base glass in one other pelt nlr only. In my opinion who really knows who made what and when and lots of experiments happened quite often when they played with the glass. The more we all dig into the history the more we will learn. Chuck G--