Chad G.

Correct, black ribbons on a white opaque base

No real way to tell once the "solid" ones are out of their original packaging, have to be considered ball bearings Brother, keep them well clear of your mibs, they'll scratch them almost on contact. If I were you I'd just toss em or give em to the grandkids for sling shot ammo (value "0") The only "solid steelies" that are worth any money have to be in the original packaging. Unless they're hollow then it's a gimme. The x looking pattern in the first pic is where they closed up the marble. Sizes all the way from pee - wee to around an inch. One of Steph's threads from right here on MC, if you want to see mare just enter "steelies" in the search bar LINK : https://marbleconnection.com/topic/7389-steelies/?tab=comments#comment-65670 Another pic from Steph's thread of some solid steelies in original packaging.

Boletus - Tomato, Tamato

Ads from 1927 Butler Bros. toy magazine with appreciation & permission from Jim Sneed, shoenhut collectors club, oldworldtoys.com, ads for both solid and hollow steelies. Sorry for the blur in the first ad. 1927 - American Steelie - Hollow steel & solid steel : Parisian Turquoise & American Carnelians 1924- onyx American marbles High Grade Cobalt Blue Onyx : Solid Steel

Fantastic Ric, thanks a bunch Appreciate it !!

Nice job Steph I couldn't figure out that site for the life of me, to much reading I guess. You just saved me hours of looking again "Thank you & double thank you" I had someone trying to tell me that they were beat out by hand you can see the machine made shear cuts & the only way to close up the sphere is in a press. I worked with steel in a shipyard as a fabricator reading blueprints & welding for 13 years & am very familiar with a steel shop, metal lathe & steel shears, plasma cutter (gun), air arc (air carbon arc cutting), steel press etc... so the reason why I highly doubted the "handmade theory"

That oughta clear out the competition !!

Anyone have any info on old steelie manufacturing methods ?? I was always led to believe the old hollow steelies were handmade in some manner. But I had my doubts, they all look machine cut & are to round to be handmade I would think. I had this in one of my folders, can't remember where or when I got it, I think off one of the forums ?? Any info would help. I tried to read the pat. number but found it impossible. If you could the date of application and person that applied is right there but still I was unable to find anything else out. There is only one site you can draw this info from, and for the life of me I can't remember. Maybe my mind is going?? After a couple hours of research the links, names & dates kinda get blurred a little bit. Here is the pic of the process & patent applied for drawing. Maybe one of you is a bit better at looking than I am. Certainly a mib related question that needs answering.

Looks like a modern repro ad marble, they pump these out by the thousands, inumerable logos & stamps on them, probably 1" most commonly. I forget the site but all they have is these, by the case or individually, they get about $3.00 each, but probably buy them in bulk for pennies, you could probably google a number of sales sites pretty easy. I'll post a link as soon as I find it. I just googled "Logo marbles" on Ebay & got 843 sales sites, almost every one 1" marbles, by the case or whatever you want. There are also sites with individual mibs but every site except one was all modern repro

Locks like it could be a piece of Imperial, some of their stuff doesn't have any marks on it. Or maybe a repro toothpick, nonetheless a nice piece

This one looks Alley to me Ric ?? No idea on the blue & white though ??

Sami has has some good pics of them in his book as well as the silver surfer & the rest of the family. This one walked right in my front door, I couldn't believe it, my friend didn't even see the av. in it or know what he had. A good day, this one came to me for once, HTF any in the wild anymore, especially a rare one !! I got my Pelt tiger avatar from Sami in a trade at the Seattle show in 2017. I've bought some really nice big Pelts from him, when I can get him to turn loose of them.

Mmm Mmm, Peltaliciouse !!

"Welcome back Rick" I can't wait, what a lucky dog, digging at the old Pelt site. Yesir, Pelts #1 followed by Alley then my first love, the ones that got it all started, German handmades. Just started the "buy & sell" thread this week, a great time for you to start posting & get on the board again

Never heard the name ?? Just wondering is this the mib in question ??

A "wiger" has a base of equal amounts of orange & red, or very near to it, with black ribbons or swirls, unlike a tiger or a wasp, wiger's usually don't have av. at least I have never seen one, but as usual, they do exist as their is an exception to every rule. Most wiger's I've seen are between 5/6ths & 11/16ths. A nova is on black or occasionally white base & most commonly has ribbons on varying in color from salmon to white and everywhere in between, sizes will vary a bit but almost all of them were 7/8ths, to near 1". Nova's, root beer floats & pink Champaign's were all part of a one day run at the pelt plant in late 1988. Peltier wiger's No av in this one just HVY pocket ware. A great example One with av. from the "Peltier marbles info site" I believe Chuck Sumner (cheese) is the owner. Steph's post by David Chamberlain on nova's, floats & pink Champaign's from right here on MC. Nova & root beer float I.D. post from the MCSA, Marble collectors Society of America, home site

x 2, looks Alley to me as well.

Hello marble Friends, My neighbor about two blocks down owns this same exact car clear down to the coke bottle wheels & black paint, minus the intake coming out of the hood & MSD logo on the door. 1969 Road runner, a car I only have dreamed about owning, he stopped next to me at the light @ my house as I was leaving yesterday, In gave a thumbs up and the infamous "meep - meep" Road runner horn sounded as he honked back at me. I'll try to remember to go & get some pics of it. A beautiful fully restored to stock cond. car. Another two toned purple 69 just up the hill about a mile away, same thing totally stock & time correct. 440's are probably not the best on gas mileage but still, a great looking ride. JUST AN M2 REPLICA I HAVE, HIS EVEN HAS THE SAME STOCK BLACK PAINT JOB ON IT, I THOUGHT I WAS SEING THINGS, MINUS THE "MSD' LOGO ON THE SIDE. & YES 68-69 MALIBUS & GTO'S ARE ALSO ON MY "MOST WANTED" LIST. I OWNED A 69 GTO 4004 2 DR SEDAN WHEN I WAS A KID, SOME REGRETS GETTING RID OF IT I GUESS, EITHER THAT OR POSSIBLY PASS INTO THE NETHER NETHER FROM LEAD FOOT DISEASE !! WISH LIST ?? MORE LIKE "DREAM LIST" NO WAY I'LL EVER SEE THIS ON DISABILITY, BUT I CAN ADMIRE IT FROM AFAR & REMENISE ABOUT WHEN I WAS YOUNG.

Well !! after over 20 years of lugging this thing around I found out what this thing was, A Vidrio fan base. The Vidrio company had their own glass manufacturing plant & made a wide variety of things. Fan bases, gear shift knobs, cigarette lighters etc... So glad I stumbled onto this site, I'll post a few of my "anchor" and then the link & a few pics from the site to spark your interest. LINK : https://www.afcaforum.com/forum1/52516.html PICS OF THE PUZZLE PIECE I LUGGED AROUND FOR OVER 20 YEARS UNDER A BLACKLIGHT THE THING LIGHTS UP LIKE THE SUN, I BELIEVED IT WAS AKRO FOR MANY YEARS POSSIBLY A PIECE TO AN ASHTRAY STAND OR LAMP PIECE. BOY WAS I OFF NOW A FEW PICS OF THE PUZZLE ANSWER & A FEW OTHER VIDRIO PRODUCTS ENJOY THE SITE & NAVIGATING THE LINK I SURE DID !! THEVFOLOWING PIX AREVFROM THE "ANTIQUE FAN COLLECTORS ASSOCIATION" SITE AS "FULL CREDIT" FOR THE FOLOWING PICTURES & TEXT IS GRATEFULLY GIVEN TO THE SITE & IT'S OWNERS. https://www.afcaforum.com/forum1/52516.html I'VE WONDERED ABOUT SOME OF THESE GEAR SHIFT KNOBS FOR YEARS, "HOUZE" WAS ANOTHER MANUFACTURER OF THEM. MANY PEOPLE THINK AKRO MADE SHIFTER KNOBS BUT THERE IS "NO" PROVENANCE (DUG EXAMPLES OR DOCUMENTATION ETC...) OF AKRO EVER PRODUCING THEM.

Good only a few bucks was alright for them you did ok William, personally I just buy what I like anyway & try not to get to carried away, but sometime I wonder ??

The Killers, great idea on mib stands, I'm a sucker for Alleys to, you're gettin into some great mibs

Agreed Bill, I guessed Alley so did Chuck G., that's 3 of us for the no Pelt vote. All cannonballs I've ever seen have been opaque as well. Thanks for gettin back & postin

Feebay....🤣....your crackin me up !!

Talked w/ another long term Pet collector & Agree, not a Pelt. Still all opinions matter !! The characteristics i.e. Translucent almost transparent green base, chunky av., the white looking swirls on the outside ( & swirling inside) the pitting filled w/ brick residue or ash & the lack of any real Pelt structure all are pointing to Alley for "me". Most likely a relative of the Green or Blue Giant as I have seen smaller examples of both from 5/8ths on up, of both. The Giants also exhibit the characteristic non mint surface which I believe is from the incompatibility between the large quantity of av. they tried to use and the glass. Causing dimpling, pitting & a rough surface in general. The lack of the swirling pattern like the bigger examples of the Giants is probably due to the smaller size of the Feebay example ?? Just my opinion, anxious to see what others may have to say !! A backlit Green Giant Under normal lighting, note the rough surface & white ash residue caught in the pitted, rough surface. Feebay pic

Speak of the.... Maybe you have an opinion on the "Rainbo cannonball" question Bill ?? Not like we haven't been over this before........