Chad G. Posted January 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 27 minutes ago, Ric said: NIce bags, Al - every header is different, and I hadn't seen the Cat's Eyes before. If it was a "Marble King" mesh bag with Chinese Checker marbles it was probably one of Pink's jobber bags from a time before Marble King actually made marbles. In fact, I can't recall seeing a mesh bag with Marble King marbles in it (although, my memory is not what it used to be, either). Have you ever seen MK marbles in a mesh bag? Al? Marble King Chinese Checkers Poly Bag: I decided it's probably a good idea to add some "key words" with pictures for searching's sake! No, and like I said Ric I can't really remember wish I could, if for sure MK or not, just that I had them and after the move they where gone, along with a few other choice items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Oregon Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 Ric - all my MK mesh bags have Alleys or Peltier Rainbos in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ric Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Al Oregon said: Ric - all my MK mesh bags have Alleys or Peltier Rainbos in them. Do you think these were from when Berry Pink (The Marble King) was still jobbering marbles and not actually producing any of his own? Two-sided Ohio Arts Tin Litho Checkers Board (with marbles and wooden checkers - made in Japan - found in it). I have heard the marbles referred to as "Mt. Fujis". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, I'llhavethat1 said: Nice Hop Ching Board (by Pressman). I have one, but I haven't seen many with the box. Do you know who made the tin one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'llhavethat1 Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Ric said: Nice Hop Ching Board (by Pressman). I have one, but I haven't seen many with the box. Do you know who made the tin one? Not tin, actually some type of cardboard (or paper mache) best I can tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted January 25, 2021 Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 hour ago, I'llhavethat1 said: Not tin, actually some type of cardboard (or paper mache) best I can tell. Nice, I have never seen one like it. It looks to be in excellent condition. Is there anything on the back? Just to be sure, I am referring to the second board you posted - surely, it's metal of some sort - any markings on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad G. Posted January 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2021 I thought I was the lone ranger when it came to Chinese checkers boards and bags, the bag I have is like a cheesecloth type of material and has begun to unwind so I don't move it much, glad to see so many great examples, I really like the one I'llhavethat1's cardboard or chip board or like he said, "whatever it's made of" board, cool lookin, I've never seen one like it. All good each and every one a great piece of history, my little nieces and nephews didn't even know how to paly checkers till I taught them, funny how many things change over time with only a few taking any note. That old cardboard and pressed board sure withstood the test of time, looks almost like it was bought yesterday, the quality of so many of the old board games and toys was outstanding, made to last and take years of use and a little abuse and still perform and look basically like new. " Great submissions all" my folder is looking good much I didn't have in there before, now saved to an external hard drive I have a direct link to so it won't be lost if I crash. The really good thing is I'm free to share it all. The basis of the forum, sharing and learning, I'll say again, "a great place to be" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'llhavethat1 Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Ric said: Nice, I have never seen one like it. It looks to be in excellent condition. Is there anything on the back? Just to be sure, I am referring to the second board you posted - surely, it's metal of some sort - any markings on it? It's been packed away for a while so I got it out for a closer look. You're correct, there is a pulp/paper/cardboard backing and the upper face is metal. here is a pic of the bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 Thanks for taking the time to check it out. This old game looks new. It seems like the marbles would have been stored under that cardboard prior to sale. And if the cardboard has ever been removed, I am surprised someone took the time to put it back in place, since It doesn't really seem to serve any purpose. Have you ever had the cardboard out? Do you think the marbles might still be in there? It's a very cool game. I did some poking around and saw a few other pics of the game online - none of them had the cardboard in place, at least where I could tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Oregon Posted January 26, 2021 Report Share Posted January 26, 2021 Ric - about the "MK" bags that I showed. I think they were from the Berry Pink days but I guess there could be an overlap when Marble King first started. Although, I would not think they used mesh bags when they started. I'll be glad when Gerald Witcher's MK book gets done. I think he has a ton of answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted January 27, 2021 Report Share Posted January 27, 2021 I agree, Al. It would be great to have some more authoritative information about Marble King. As far as I know, Berry Pink was known as the Marble King long before he joined Sellers Peltier to found Marble King - the marble manufacturer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 As far as I know all the Hop Ching mesh bags of Chinese checker marbles contain Alley marbles. As well with most or all of the MARBLE KING yellow/orange checkerboard pattern header plastic bags also contain Alley Chinese checker marbles. There are several Hop Ching wood frame Chinese checker boards and different color mesh bags of Hop Ching Chinese checker marbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted June 22, 2022 Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 Found this today saved it from under a pile of stuff . 8 bucks..👍Any idea on year these were made .. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Posted June 22, 2022 Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 15 minutes ago, Tommy said: Found this today saved it from under a pile of stuff . 8 bucks..👍Any idea on year these were made .. I'm guessing 1940's? Saw some like yours selling for 23 too over 50 bucks (the highest one had the original box but no original marbles) 8 bucks...great grab 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Posted June 22, 2022 Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 18 minutes ago, Tommy said: Found this today saved it from under a pile of stuff . 8 bucks..👍Any idea on year these were made .. I think the company is J. Pressman? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted June 22, 2022 Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 1 minute ago, William said: I think the company is J. Pressman? I was under the same impression . Thanks William 👊 I'll get my tape out but the board seems big.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Posted June 22, 2022 Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tommy said: I was under the same impression . Thanks William 👊 I'll get my tape out but the board seems big.. The ones I saw were 16 3/4 × 18 3/4... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted June 23, 2022 Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 37 minutes ago, William said: The ones I saw were 16 3/4 × 18 3/4... 15.5x17.5 is what i got👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted June 23, 2022 Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 The Hop Ching boards were by Jack Pressman and used Alley marbles from the mid 1930's to the mid 1940's. There are several different Hop Ching boards. This is what finally put Alley in big profit with marbles. This is why he had to move to the St.Marys WV location. For a larger building and triple his numbers of machines. He could not make marbles fast enough to supply the demand for the Hop Ching Chinese Checker game boards. The large board is rare. It is Ming Check and it was sold with 7/8 inch Vitro marbles. It is size 24 inches by 24 inches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashbelt Posted June 23, 2022 Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 Here's some original boxes from my solitaire collection. Chad Valley, Glevum, Gibson, Ayres, Jaques and WS Spear I think. Always nice to have them with original sets even if tatty! Some have survived 100-150 years. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad G. Posted June 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 1 hour ago, crashbelt said: Here's some original boxes from my solitaire collection. Chad Valley, Glevum, Gibson, Ayres, Jaques and WS Bavaria I think. Always nice to have them with original sets even if tatty! Some have survived 100-150 years. Wow Dave, impressive, great collection Dave, this one has been for floating around for sale on Ebay for a long, long time (years) I was wondering if you had any perspective on it or could place a value on it ?? Obviously not what their asking or it would have been gone long ago, probably because of the most common onionskin color around for mibs but that's just my take. Curious what you think ?? LINK : https://www.ebay.com/itm/183564971562?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&campid=5338722076&customid=&toolid=10050 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashbelt Posted June 23, 2022 Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 Thanks for posting this Chad - I've never seen a set made for the German domestic market. I bought quite a lot from Germany over the years and read much of the research and that's the first I've seen of one, so they must have been made in far smaller numbers than sets for the English market. As you see I have quite a few surviving English boxes! Great to learn something new, although I agree the Ebay pricing seems very optimistic. I have this similar set (unboxed) on a nicer mahogany board, and the onions are more blue over white. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad G. Posted June 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, crashbelt said: Thanks for posting this Chad - I've never seen a set made for the German domestic market. I bought quite a lot from Germany over the years and read much of the research and that's the first I've seen of one, so they must have been made in far smaller numbers than sets for the English market. As you see I have quite a few surviving English boxes! Great to learn something new, although I agree the Ebay pricing seems very optimistic. I have this similar set (unboxed) on a nicer mahogany board, and the onions are more blue over white. Just curious if you'd ever seen a German Solitaire box like that one. I know the Germans produced nearly all the marbles of the era for the English board market as the earlier larger faceted marbles were phased out due to the high demand for smaller gameboard nibs. Thanks for the pic and for chiming in Dave, that German box is a first for me also, evidently not to many of them floating around ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted June 23, 2022 Report Share Posted June 23, 2022 16 hours ago, wvrons said: The Hop Ching boards were by Jack Pressman and used Alley marbles from the mid 1930's to the mid 1940's. There are several different Hop Ching boards. This is what finally put Alley in big profit with marbles. This is why he had to move to the St.Marys WV location. For a larger building and triple his numbers of machines. He could not make marbles fast enough to supply the demand for the Hop Ching Chinese Checker game boards. The large board is rare. It is Ming Check and it was sold with 7/8 inch Vitro marbles. It is size 24 inches by 24 inches. Thank you sir...👍✅ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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