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2 hours ago, Dave 13 said:

Hi a couple Bennington‘s ,  then a HM with a pigtail , and a many ingot clay disaster must of being bring you kids to work day Lol 

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Great Bennies and divided core.  Not so sure about that weird clay job!! All part of the fun of collecting!!

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19 minutes ago, akroorka said:

Nice marbles, speaking of kids the last one does look like it was stuck under a school desk for awhile😁.

Marble--On!!

Lol watch me be that guy posting old gum 🫣I’m working but when I get back I’m giving it the dog test, it does kinda look like old gum if my little dog starts licking it will call it a vintage desk marble :ROFL: 

 

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It's been a while since I've posted these. Two handmade micas, common green transparent base but a larger size @ 1 1/3rd" & 1 1/4th" Both are faceted on one end and have a melted pigtail #@ the other, the larger size and the faceting help to date them around 1850 to 1870, earlier production Germans.

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I don't own very many German marbles, so these two jar finds are "retreads", just new pictures. 

The third marble, of clay/stoneware, is one I don't think I have ever posted before and I believe it too be acceptable for a Thuringen Thursday. Opinions welcomed on it for sure. It is about 0.70...

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4 hours ago, Chad G. said:

It's been a while since I've posted these. Two handmade micas, common green transparent base but a larger size @ 1 1/3rd" & 1 1/4th" Both are faceted on one end and have a melted pigtail #@ the other, the larger size and the faceting help to date them around 1850 to 1870, earlier production Germans.

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Just love those micas Chad.

 

3 hours ago, PittsburghMarbles said:

Picked up these ones not too long ago. 

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Wow - huge gooseberry!

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35 minutes ago, PittsburghMarbles said:

Nipper?

I thought the dog in the sulphide was referred to as "Nipper" the, RCA -  Victor dog. Some of the ears are painted in the rarer and some not, I might be mistaken but it sure looks like nipper to me ??

 

LINK ::   https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-antique-1890s-german-sulfide-468708159

 

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Here's one of my favourite sets - 11/16" Josephs Coats. Ground pontils so later period marbles - all my Josephs are later period so I wonder if its a style of Germans that wasn't produced much in the early faceted -pontil period. I'm sure someone will correct me if my hunch is wrong!!

The marbles aren't original to the board which is beautifully made and presumably earlier. I bought the marbles loose a long time ago and matched them with the best quality spare board I had as they're such an attractive group.

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Killer set David, Coats are my favorite handmade as you know, love em man, Thanks for postin the pic  :thup: Agree w/ ya on the later part of the Victorian era of production for yours. Most of the earlier types were larger and had one faceted pontil and the other usually a melted pigtail. They got a lot smaller when the "English gameboard" started & the demand went way up, increased production meant no time to facet anymore, half the smaller coats I have are skip ground on one end, either that or both ends were left unfinished. I forgot to add they were made for the English Gameboard mkt. by the Germans.

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A repost of one of my favorite coats. 27/32nds if I remember right (close) showing the gaps demonstrating the lack of an underlying "skin" like an onion has, Backlit & a few pix of the pontils to demonstrate the "skip" grinding I was talking about. One end ground one end unfinished. These are all pix of the same mib.

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Here's the unfinished end ::

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And here's what I call "skip ground" they were in such a hurry that the actual pontil was completely missed leaving a grind mark off to one side. They musta been Bustin their humps.

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Here's another example. One pontil a melted pigtail the other end "skip ground" you can see where the grinding trailed off  the pontil onto the clean surface of the marble on the left. I suppose it wasn't easy keeping it centered perfectly as a great deal of my late era coats exhibit this production trait, either this or both ends are rough and unfinished.

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38 minutes ago, Chad G. said:

A repost of one of my favorite coats. 27/32nds if I remember right (close) showing the gaps demonstrating the lack of an underlying "skin" like an onion has, Backlit & a few pix of the pontils to demonstrate the "skip" grinding I was talking about. One end ground one end unfinished. These are all pix of the same mib.

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Here's the unfinished end ::

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And here's what I call "skip ground" they were in such a hurry that the actual pontil was completely missed leaving a grind mark off to one side. They musta been Bustin their humps.

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Here's another example. One pontil a melted pigtail the other end "skip ground" you can see where the grinding trailed off  the pontil onto the clean surface of the marble on the left. I suppose it wasn't easy keeping it centered perfectly as a great deal of my late era coats exhibit this production trait, either this or both ends are rough and unfinished.

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Great Josephs Coats Chad - love the light green colour.

They must have been producing vast numbers of marbles in Thuringen in the later period, for the pontils to be finished so hastily. And the game board makers like Jaques and Ayres must have been happy with the finishing, as they met the later-Victorian rising demand. I have a theory that the finest quality turned boards were made in the earlier period too.

 

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