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GoodLutzifer

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alley carnival on the left?  It told me it identifies as one…The mib in the right has me curious as well. So few pics of carnivals it’s hard to compare. Strikeout or carnival and imposter? I don’t see carnival in the right hand one. Looks too shiny and Jabo ish. Thanks for looking 

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I suspected Jabo on the shiny one. Colors are close. But no cigar. 
 

However the first one I think the first deserves better pics.I had thought possibly a CAC because it’s so stratified with that “sedimentary rock” description. don’t see it matching up to any other other WV swirls in my limited knowledge. Thanks for the responses. 

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2 hours ago, GoodLutzifer said:

Better pics

 

It is a nice one--but--,
Look at the little white "hit marks"--a common "Classic Jabo" trait. 
“Classic Jabo” are production run marbles made for the mass market as opposed to "Contract Jabo" which saw a limited run made with cash paid in by a variety of marble enthusiasts’ who mostly were either there during the run working or close by.
These little white hit marks actually happened before the bags were opened, during production or during shipment.
Marble—On!!
 

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On 9/20/2024 at 8:54 PM, Tommy said:

Jabo is what i 👀 

I hesitate to reply. With all due respect. Contradicting the experts is risky if you are afraid of expressing yourself. Or too fragile to be corrected. Perhaps few will believe me when I say that that I knew the owner of the collection and there were zero marbles out of over 800 that were post 1960. The collection belonged to his father who played marbles as a child. It was passed down to him in 1983. Well before Jabo.  He knew nothing about them and had no interest in them beyond asking $275. Neither of us knew the value of the collection. I have sold several thousand dollars worth of the collection with 90% of it remaining. It’s how I got started 14 months ago. I’m new. But this is not a Jabo. Not to mention that Jabo seems to be well documented and photographed in production. Someone should be able to back up their claim with a Jabo picture. Got to stick to my guns here. It’s lumpy and out of round. It’s been played. 99.99% of Jabo marbles have never been played. And never will be. That’s all I have to say. You can call me stupid, but it’s not a Jabo. 

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It's an Alley. Not quite what I would call a Carnival though. Sometimes when a particular known color combo was made, there was a period of time before or after it when glass was just starting or ending and this could be one of those, or it could be another attempt at the same colors. The Carnival was made at Pennsboro. Many don't know that a similar marble was also made at St. Marys, and it probably just as rare, but not as bright and flashy. It also has translucence to the green and can have mottling. The marble on the right is JABO IMO.

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15 hours ago, cheese said:

It's an Alley. Not quite what I would call a Carnival though. Sometimes when a particular known color combo was made, there was a period of time before or after it when glass was just starting or ending and this could be one of those, or it could be another attempt at the same colors. The Carnival was made at Pennsboro. Many don't know that a similar marble was also made at St. Marys, and it probably just as rare, but not as bright and flashy. It also has translucence to the green and can have mottling. The marble on the right is JABO IMO.

Thank you. This mib is definitely not as bright as a Pennsboro Carnival. I was unaware of the St.M version. I had leaned Alley/Jabo. Just confidently calling it an Alley might be as best it can be categorized. Be tough to match to the St.M carnival for me unless someone reputable was certain. I don’t have the experience. It definitely doesn’t look like most alleys.  I like it though. Played but has some character to compensate. Much thanks. 

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