Chuck G

Fire, i could sure use them on canes and walking staffs. Very nice. Chuck G---

Tiny, there are a few collectors of what we all call "footballs" and "eggs". I even collect "footballs" myself. Mistakes or even intentional for these little pieces of art work. Chuck G---

Bumblebee, a very good question on the future of marble collecting. We have the marble shows, the chat forums and other directions we can go to which enhances the hobby. We may know personally six collectors but there are 60 in the closet that keep private. I LOVE doing the shows, seminars and lectures and try my best to (promote) the hobby to the younger ones. The key is getting the desire presented to them as a fun enjoyable hobby. My best thrill of the hobby is to see the young ones and GIVE them a big bag of marbles. Chuck G---

MO, VERY GOOD, a fine groupings for future references, good idea. Chuck G---

I agree with everyone also, i have an example close to yours. Chuck G---

Jeremy, i agree a Peltier "Sunset" family type. Ok, do us a favor, kick a (black light) on it to see what response you come up with. NEW examples and things is continually being found. At our show here last November an attendee found something that (surprised) me. There are (millions) of "Sunset" types out there but he had shown me an example that is close to yours that is (highly) florescent with a black light. The name tagged to it was the Peltier "Persimmon Sunset", the name kinda stuck. Another (found) example that is common but NOT common by the results found. This was mentioned sometime after our show here, so you may find it in the archives. All take note, always check ALL your "Sunsets" with a black light. Remember the "Fizz" family types were found this way. My input on this subject, use it as you may. Chuck G---

Ron is VERY CORRECT on this and most will agree. I have studied (ALL) the Peltiers marbles over all these years and with Rons input is right. I agree (totally) with him on this. Ron always talks about (glass flow) and i noticed on your third photo there is a (V) pattern and as it flows in a clockwise or counter clockwise pattern towards a yeng-yang pattern. Now a lot of swirls do not do this, while some have the double pattern that is the "Ramshead Chevron" look. I agree also that it is an (early) swirl that would probably fall into the "Blue Panda" family type because the internal opaque white flows down into the base glass. A little input and use it as you may. Chuck G---

Jeremy, lets see what some others have to say. I know that there were some dug Akro examples that they called "Burnt Sparklers". Either Akro or maybe Master. Chuck G---

Jon, WELCOME to the forum. I am glad to hear that you are wanting to still go forward with collecting. I agree totally with everyone above, very well stated (facts). I remember when i was introduced to the hobby 48 years ago. I still am very (blessed) with such great wonderful friends that i have traveled down this road with. (FRIENDS) make this hobby. Chuck G---

Ron, that is some very fine handmade examples you found at Indy. Sure wish i could have made it but things happen, lost my stepdad that Saturday of the show. Chuck G---

Fire, those are some really cool stuff. I have found some of these before and i use them on canes or walking staffs i make. The center bottle stopper, i just mounted one of these in a cane. I do look for all sorts of things i can use on my projects. Good stuff---Chuck G---

Al, HAPPY BIRTHDAY, may you have MANY more. Chuck G---

Amber, WELCOME to the forum. You have inherited a very nice bunch of marbles. They range from early Akro and upwards. These marble forums are the place to go to, to (learn). Forums, books and shows is a goal to look at. In the 48 years for me, you will find not only tons of information, but acquire many (wonderful friends) along the way. A great hobby to be in. Chuck G---

Tommy. i will go with Rics conclusion, my opinion. Chuck G---

Mo, i really like these and you have some VERY NICE ones. I have seen a nice collection of these that came up for sale, and there was some (killer) examples in the batch. I do have a few but not that many. Chuck G---

Mo, i would have this example in the (early) (swirl) so called Miller style, as a Peltier Zebra. A VERY nice example and MORE sought after then the ribbon types. This example seems to be another example of a (washed out) black color over laying the white opaque base. Top row, middle photo shows the deep black color which is what all the swirls should have looked like in the whole example. These (early) swirl types are very sought after as i even look for them. The best i can remember is that these two colored swirl types were examples that were in the early "Lucky Boy" box that Peltier done. When you find a (true) brown with av or not av you will know when you see it. Rons comments are always the BEST, he is an asset to the hobby for sure. I will add this also when it comes to the (brown) color in Peltier, it is tough to find. I have looked for years for these different examples. When any color lies on a white opaque base it shows much better of actually what color it is. I have always asked about the (brown) color in glass, maybe Ron can elaborate on this a little more. His input is very important as he is always teaching us all the keys to the hobby. Chuck G---

A very good discussion, with every ones input and thoughts. Yes, i do see why some would say Vitro as they do look to be an (offshoot) of the "Superior" family type. I can see Master also with the cut lines. They could be Akro also with the colors. Akro and Master had the smaller size, like these examples, especially Master. I (think) you see very few Vitros in this 1/2 inch size. My (opinion) i will go with on these examples to be Master then possibly Vitro and then Akro, not Peltier. I have an antique brass wire necklace that has these types of marbles in it at the 1/2 inch size that i (consider) Master. Master seemed to make a lot of 1/2 inch pee-wees marbles. Chuck G---

Tommy, Chad is correct, both i would consider in the Akro "Indian Blanket" (family type). The one i like is the one with the black base and red/orange cork that is edged or traced with a yellow along the edge. I would like to find, one of these days, some factory examples of what was made in Akron Ohio when they first started production. I still wonder what the color combinations were, as they started? Chuck G---

Tommy, a few things for you to consider, I agree not a "Bronze Zebra" and will explain why. I have found a few that i do scratch my head on, deciding if it is one example or another. Black when it lies on white opaque when the black (washes-over) the white it thins out which appears to be another color. Sometimes black washes to look grey or maybe even brown. A "Bronze Zebra" will lie on a white opaque base with swirls and or ribbons of (brown) glass. The brown is definitely shown to be that color. Now this brown will and (has to) contain av, what color of the av may vary also. These are very fun to look for and a lot of times mistaken. Very important, (wash-over) colors on the base colors. Ron S may want to add to this also if he sees this subject. Chuck G---

Ron, another and more quality information for those who are interested in glass. You (always) bring the BEST to the dinner table to dine on. Chuck G---

Ron, very WELL SAID, and maybe this will get collectors in a better understanding of how marbles were made, no matter what has came down the pipe for many years. With (time) comes many many NEW informational provenience that we all must learn to change our minds in the advancement of marble collecting. An open mind to (change) is wonderful and lots of new things we all learn. One machine can make (MANY) different family and style types. Chuck G---

Ric, i will say Koko on this one. I have a few that (i think) was estimated to possible be another maker, but i will go with Kokomo. One step farther i have found examples that (i think) are early (experimental) but a term one may question. They are definitely made on the Peltier machine, no doubt. Chuck G---

Merry Christmas to all my great friends. Chuck G---

How rare is the one inch Alley "Shimmering Spruce"? I know the (pee-wees) are harder to find , how about the big Shooters? Chuck G---

Ron, very nice examples, LOVE the light purple one. Did they ever make a red one? I did not know a lot of them came from Cuba, learned something new. Chuck G---