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I have heard of Ruby Bees which is a Red Bee with aventurine. Red aventurine would be much rarer than black. Regardless, even if Golden Rebels are easier to find than the blended types, they are well known and would bring higher prices than the blended ones imho. Golden Rebels are quite rare themselves. Sami

Mike, we heard your story so many times over the years Miller machine versus Seller machine. Have you actually read the patterns? Could you post any excerpts from any written document? Paula actually posted some time ago over at LOM paragraphs from the Miller pattern which was very close describing how they made the Miller swirls we all seem to love. Sami

Here is the only one I have seen to back up my statement. It is a bifurcated example but I can only imagine Peltier produced true NLR Dragonflys like this. Glass doesn't seem compatible so the production may be short. Pictures are courtesy of Craig Snyder. Thank Craig! Sami

I agree with Mike that Miller swirls and feathered slags are different in construction. My personal observation of these magnificent slags feel like they are from the era of NLR swirls. Sami

Craig, out of curiousity; does your fake Sulphide have a pontil? Is it ground if there is one? Sami

I am pretty sure it is a Burnt Rebel. There is a special name for you. Sami

Yes, it sure would! Sami

Wet mint, high grade marbles do look like they are made yesterday. That is why they are graded high. This is one area you don't need to be suspicious. Sami

Steph, somehow I feel like you are talking to some imaginery friends. I am sure I am wrong though. Edna, you are sentencing guilt by association. I don't think Galen went below the belt on that other board although some others may have. He just wasn't into facts as much as he demands other people should be into. Now I am asking myself why I let myself get entangled into this? Sami

I do not want to comment on the original topic of this thread, but am disturbed by Steph turning this into her personal vendetta, while she is the top person who stirred more stuff on any marble board in existence and even caused a huge exodus of knowlegable members to create another board just to stay away from this type of provocations. I understand why you all have this issue with Galen. He is a good friend of mine and I told him a week or two ago to stay away from this controversy. There is no point to it imo. I just don't like to see Steph getting back to him by taking advantage of this mess. Sami

I would call it machinecut rather than machinemade just as an Agate marble. Sami

Largest PPP example I have ever heard of was sold at Running Rabbit auctions on May 2002 and was a 3/4" blue based with yellow patch with an imprint just like a comic patch as 'Hoover for President 1932'. It belongs now to a good friend in Oregon. Sami

Interestingly enough I just came across an original box of 25 count #15 (+/- 5/8") California Agates box in decent condition. I can confirm that the agates do not have facets. They are polished in one way to lose the facets. That confirms by 1924 at least in the US Agates were not handcut. Almost all the ones I picked up from the box were translucent base with yellowish vains, reminding of Peltier Honey Onyx. Sami

Steve, They are daily listed on Ebay. Make sure the seller knows what they are talking about. Antique handcut agates always have facets all around the marble unless they are polished recently. Sami

Couple things on the European bullet molds: The mold/cutline makes a whole circle around the marble, which may mean there is a two piece mold for the glass to get round up. The second thing is the glass surface looks almost like it has been polished. There are no as made imperfections, at least on the ones I have seen. Sami

I have no idea what a British war re-enactor means, but he sure is not making any marbles, maybe same kind of metal piece. Handmade marbles have pontils, not mold or cutlines. Is that really difficult to understand? Sami

I don't know how they rounded the antique Sulphides, but they have a single pontil. There is a book about them. European Guineas have cutlines/moldlines around the marble. They do not have any pontils. Sami

Andrea, European bullet mold Guineas are machine made marbles. Sami

Carole, can you see the pontil. If you can't then it is a Chech Guinea. I see cutlines there. Sami

I have to correct my post in regards the Submarine Indian Swirls in Running Rabbit catalogs. Today I read in one description that most of these have ground pontils. Sami

I was browsing an old Running Rabbit auctions catalog and came across few examples like that. They were called Submarine Indian swirls. The difference is this one is larger and have the ground pontil. Sami

A lot of money for a common marble. Sami

I'm in! Sami

I do check Sulphide prices on Ebay occasionally and I can say that the figures go higher than animals. It is a large size as a bonus, but the placement of the figure and the condition takes away from the value. This may not help much but it could go between $100 to $250 and even more, but not less, on Ebay. Sami

Could it be Peltier? For sure not CA imho. Sami