Chad G.

Most people will listen or at least ask if they don't understand. When someone blatantly posts something as something it's not they are quickly found out and exposed. I went to the trouble of explaining the difference between MK and Peltier and this is the answer I get LINK : https://www.ebay.com/itm/174565745810?ul_noapp=true You may fool people once or twice but after that you won't sell anything, no way you could miss identify that marble after all the trouble I went to. Even used the same pic on Ebay, come on man really !!

Thanks for the input Ron, A great mib, I had to post it for conversation, a great learning point as far as glass flow, color, temp and production and non production. Every once in a while one like this slips by, as said when your producing that many marbles your going to see some like this. Thanks again for the input. I also posted this on the other forum with a much different out come. I realize it is a pelt I just wanted to see the reaction and read other opinions on it.

No not a pelt, MK 100%, blue bees or other pelt NLR's have more well defined ribbons and don't fade into the base glass like 99% of veneered MK's on at least 1 ribbon, there are always exceptions, here are a few pics of pelt bees for you. I hope this helps you in determining the difference between a "pelt and a marble king" Pelt bees do not always have av. Finding one without is harder but still the ones with it are worth more. Sad but true I have no MK bumble bee's to share. There are still many more members of the pelt bee family I was just giving a few examples. A BRONZE BEE, courtesy of AAM, loaded with bronze colored av. A BLUE BEE, courtesy of AAM with a little different ribbon pattern than Bonnies, loaded with blue av. A BUMBLE BEE WITH HVY. BRONZE AV. (some may consider this a bronze bee) A RUBY BEE W/ AV. TWO MORE BUMBLE BEES 1st ONE NO AV. SECOND ONE WITH AV. ANOTHER SHOT OF THE SECOND ONE IN THE LAST PIC. SHOWING THE AV. IN THE SUN AND A LITTLE DIFFERENT GOLDEN BASE COLOR, and the more prevalent silver colored av.

Maybe Alley, mighty sparse though

Yes Steph, at least the one side especially look's MK, nothing like a pelt, the other side is kind of iffy, either way In my mind a killer mib.

A great idea and attitude lets use a sniping program, split the bid, and after we win the mib, them take some before and after picture's of the 🔨 in action !!! After staring at the auction post for a while this is what happened !! and a bit later and after a second look or maybe I started out this way ?? I'm glad someone seen fit to put a "hammer emoji" in here, thank you for the consideration. It came in handy.

Welcome to the land of confusion, without the av. would you still say pelt ?? I can't say if I would or wouldn't. In hand a 2 second I.D. but yes the dimpled av. riddled ribbons also point to pelt for me as well, what an odd ribbon construct !! I know pelt made pink glass, I had a pink based NLR, but not a half and half maybe a change in color stream or tanks created this one off. A washed out tiger for sure, if all pink what a killer then, still a great mib in my book.

This is an active post on Ebay, is it Pelt ? or is it MK ? one side looks pelt, one side MK, one end Pelt ? one MK ? It does have blue av. but I've seen green and a very rare bit in MK. With characteristics of both "I Vote Pelt" that's my first intuition so be it, the picture drew me to the post not what the seller hs to say. Many sellers try to sell on the premise of the name of the marble thinking that will bring more money, not saying this person did that because the listing says Pelt? or MK? Pink, orange, what ?? LINK: https://www.ebay.com/itm/324423183509 PICS

You weren't wrong Steph, it is a Pelt, your post certainly "got me to look" I wonder if that's why they call us Pelt heads ??

Sounds like it's a pelt Blue Bee, rare and worth a couple hundred $$ at least, well above what the MK's are. The little twinkles if blue are blue av., you need at least a 10 x loupe to get s good close look to see what color the av. is unless it's so thick you can see it with your naked eye. If indeed a blue bee you should or I would definitely not let it roll around=d with a bunch of other mibs but at least put it into a little zip lock to preserve the surface, a very important factor in the value. A rare bee I see!! New home yes!! I would put it in it's own little dog house. " nice mib "

Yes looks pelt to me also Steph, Pelt Bumble bees with a blue tracer often have blue av. have you looked really close for trace amounts or very fine of av. , weather it be blue or not?? And yes Steph I agree absolutely with the MK on the other three. And I would say you have 2 different bumble bees, 1 pelt and 3 MK with variations of the same marble Bonnie

Is this site the one Al, it's been down for weeks at least, until now when I just checked it after reading your post, Thank You, I've been trying to use it for reference for weeks. I saved the link in case it came back up, I had a feeling it would, a very important and most complete list I've found is if this be the one ?? https://www.billes-en-tete.com/liste_billes.php?lang=en

Here in WA. as well, I don't even want to go outside the moisture laden wind cuts right into ya, wish I would have lived a little closer to a mib factory, I like cullet, kinda nice to have cullet to go along w/ the mib. Good show Bill. Ya musta recovered from that last dose of popcorn ??

I like the second upside down one, good amount of ox for a limeade, a great mib !!!

A lot of Vitro's Bonnie, my fav. beautiful nice fat multi colored hybrids, yeah buddy, nice !!

I don't collect them either but I sure ended up with amess of them, every time I bought a lot or went to an estate sale and got some there was always Akro in there so I decided I would keep the best and sell or give away the rest, well the rest is starting to build up or creep up on me A very nice multi Ric, man those really used to draw the $$ anything over 3 colors really set Akro collectors off. Nice and wet, I see why you kept it.

Both classic familiar old favorites. Happy, Happy, Happy !! A few dimples never hurt and only add to the character of the marble for me.

I know I've already posted this one but the oxblood in it is near black, an almost anemic type color, all my other blue aces have the lighter colored ox. a pic of it alone and beside a regular colored one for comparison. " Oop's" Happy Akro Friday all.

Mmmm !! yes I need a fresh infusion, soon !! " Infusion " I feel like a vampire or somethin 👿

if you cant see through the black streaks when backlit it's still oxblood just exposed to high heat a little to long " Burnt" I been told if you get it hot enough for long enough it will break down all the way and become clear.

I'm in need a fresh batch myself, it's beginning to turn into a rash. I better and get some as soon as possible before welts appear and I break out in pelt bumps.

I agree with you on those Bill but the black ones I have I believe aren't, but I'm still gonna post em to give everyone a good look see. When I figure out how to download these stupid pics or someone does it for me. Hmmm, if I'm having someone else download for me then the stupid one is....

What ?? No popcorn allowed Bill, not fair!! and not like any rainbows I've seen ?? let alone pelts !! That popcorn must be laced with somethin ??

I know, I know, I need to take some pics, it's just so easy to hit them all at once but you don't get the enjoyment like the individual pics. Therefore I will start again. By the way thanks for sharing Ric !! nice mib.

I know all perspective at this point until someone starts to do chemical analysis on the glass or look at the glass structure through an electron microscope. That's going a long ways, I think I'll stick to collecting what I like. Although it does spark a little interest. I don't have a clue about the mibs above, they certainly have the banana structure going, the black ones some do some don't ?? I really, truth be known, don't feel pelt but will hold onto a few just in case. Maybe some pics later ??