You are correct Andrea, but it was another lost cause(lol). It is really hard to prove it is, or is not, "True" oxblood glass or not. I do still believe only the German makers, MFC and Akro actually made and used Oxblood glass on purpose. And while much "Accidental" oxblood glass shows up, Alley especially, I believe it was all just accidental occurances. And maybe someday we will even find out Alley did make it.