Rich, you are avoiding giving a direct answer to a direct question. And no way is that a good comparison. More realistic is If I grind up and melt down the metal parts from an old ford and make new nissan parts with it. is it a Ford? I think not. Or if I take Fenton cullet and make marbles with it on a machine at Jabo, are they Fenton marbles, I think not. Or as some believe, We take Akro cullet and make marbles at the Alley factory from the cullet they sure as heck are not Akro marbles, are they. Sorry but those are not CAC marbles in any way shape or form.