zaboo Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 ok, I could be wrong here, but I thought this type was pretty much thought of as a champ swirl. did I miss something? please help. coral cac? a champ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Oregon Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 That first one is a tough one. There are some CAC's along those lines but not my area so I'll have some popcorn and watch the show like Steph is (hoping hte show starts soon...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marboman Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 CAC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARBLEMISER Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 Hey Dani. That's Kevin's auction. FeelingMarbleous. So sometime's things aren't what they seem? I thought that they were Champ's too? Mud Snake?? that's a whole new name for me? Dani, you have any of them thar Mud Snakes?? http://cgi.ebay.com/AAM-MARBLES-AKRO-MUD-SNAKE-CORKSCREW-5-8-MINT-HTF-/180613100971?pt=Marbles&hash=item2a0d6135ab marblemiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaboo Posted January 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 never heard of them thar 'mud snakes'. rofl but yeah we have some like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffy Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 experts are allowed to name marbles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marboman Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 Both champs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancy cooper Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 I love watching these kind of discussions cuz I learn things. I can't add anything to the debate but let me add the pictures from e-bay so we can all see what the marbles under discussion are after the sales have ended. I love the pictures and am dissapointed when they're not there any more...Nancy coral cac? a champ... Mud Snakes?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnivalcolor Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 thanks nancy!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 Kevins marble is not a CAC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catfish Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 experts are allowed to name marbles LOL I have heard of a Mud Shark, but not a mud snake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clydetul62 Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 I dont think that is a coral. There are 3 different shades of corals from 3 different companies. At one time Les Jones had a pic of the 3 and from which company. Contrary to Galen and others, I think this is a CAC. The base is clear though with green filiaments inside making it appear green. in this pic second vertcal row, second one down is an example that I think Kevin has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Oregon Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 This is hte picture of Les' that Clyde was referring to. I used it as a guide for some time but a while back, someone (maybe Ron) pointed out that one of them was wrong - the Ravenswood was a Champion also. Les had listed these on eBay and they were CAC - Ravenswood - Champ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARBLEMISER Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 So, Al. What are you saying? Is it a CAC? marblemiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaboo Posted January 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 not long ago, all corals were thought to be CAC. things change.lol and they were all worth more then too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 I don't know of Ravenswood ever making a coral but i believe CAC,Alley and Champion did. The one in the center of the group from Les,is a Alley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 I have also been confused the last 14-15 years that i have been around marble collecting. Many say,i am still confused today,LOL. I had problems when i saw many marbles being sold as CAC,and that same week,i saw the same marbles coming from the dirt at one of the WV swirl marble factories. The marbles below are just one example of several. I still saw these with tags at shows,listed on ebay,as CAC even in 2010. Years ago they were sold as CAC and for $50.00-$75.00 each. But once they became Alley the price dropped to $20.00-$30.00,but it is still the same marble ? I am confused again ????? Even in March 2007 i noticed a noted CAC collector,Kokoken bid on one of these on ebay listed as CAC. I contacted him(i still have the email)and give him the Alley info. He said that it was one of his favorite CACs. He managed to get a few from me at a much lower price,than the CAC price. We have to saty informed and be willing to change. Collecting machine made marbles is young compared to most collectibles. Not all the older information was correct and some of todays information may not be correct. We use what we have at the time,but that information could change or be updated tommorow. We have to stay informed,there are many ways to do it. If we do not,we can only blame ourselves. Apply the same questions as for other items,why,how,what is the proof,etc? Then decide for yourself,but be willing to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck G Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Ron, beautifully said and yes, as the NEW info comes out we ALL have to take that in consideration and go with the flow when its all facts documentated and found. I want to add this one to the group as a coral type to and its pelt. Guy Gregg dug and found one under the foundation at Ottowa which i own now and it looks similiar to the other marble makers corals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibcapper Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 I have also been confused the last 14-15 years that i have been around marble collecting. Many say,i am still confused today,LOL. I had problems when i saw many marbles being sold as CAC,and that same week,i saw the same marbles coming from the dirt at one of the WV swirl marble factories. The marbles below are just one example of several. I still saw these with tags at shows,listed on ebay,as CAC even in 2010. Years ago they were sold as CAC and for $50.00-$75.00 each. But once they became Alley the price dropped to $20.00-$30.00,but it is still the same marble ? I am confused again ????? Even in March 2007 i noticed a noted CAC collector,Kokoken bid on one of these on ebay listed as CAC. I contacted him(i still have the email)and give him the Alley info. He said that it was one of his favorite CACs. He managed to get a few from me at a much lower price,than the CAC price. We have to saty informed and be willing to change. Collecting machine made marbles is young compared to most collectibles. Not all the older information was correct and some of todays information may not be correct. We use what we have at the time,but that information could change or be updated tommorow. We have to stay informed,there are many ways to do it. If we do not,we can only blame ourselves. Apply the same questions as for other items,why,how,what is the proof,etc? Then decide for yourself,but be willing to change. har .. har ... now i know where ALL them ladies .. are ... bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richsantaclaus Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 wvrons - if you are confused after 14-15 years, think of how I feel after 10 month of collecting!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 I understand well Rich,it gets better with time,stay with it. Buddy Chuck,yes i forgot about that one,even after i knew about it and seen it. Now you have to find more of them and document it,one is a start to the hunt. Show me some more when i get there this spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibcapper Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 Ron, beautifully said and yes, as the NEW info comes out we ALL have to take that in consideration and go with the flow when its all facts documentated and found. I want to add this one to the group as a coral type to and its pelt. Guy Gregg dug and found one under the foundation at Ottowa which i own now and it looks similiar to the other marble makers corals. not at the same spot as guy's chuck ... but this is from ottawa also ... bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 That one looks very much like the one Les had listed as CAC. Where are all these coral types in original packaging ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 More corals. I am going after my popcorn,this is getting interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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