Carowill Posted October 11, 2022 Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad G. Posted October 11, 2022 Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 Peltier Burnt Spiderman IMO, what a killer !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroorka Posted October 11, 2022 Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 Not a "Tricolor" a National-Line-Rainbo. Good coverage for a smaller sized one for sure. Just a Killer marble--Thanks for sharing it!! Marble--On!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroorka Posted October 11, 2022 Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, Chad G. said: Peltier Burnt Spiderman IMO, what a killer !! Agreed!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carowill Posted October 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, Chad G. said: Peltier Burnt Spiderman IMO, what a killer !! The “burnt” is an olive green. Would you still call that burnt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carowill Posted October 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, akroorka said: Not a "Tricolor" a National-Line-Rainbo. Good coverage for a smaller sized one for sure. Just a Killer marble--Thanks for sharing it!! Marble--On!! Agree NLR but meant three colors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroorka Posted October 11, 2022 Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 Just now, Carowill said: The “burnt” is an olive green. Would you still call that burnt? Well, I would. Some discussion is always a great thing. Lets discuss this marbleconnection folks. Marble--On!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad G. Posted October 11, 2022 Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, Carowill said: The “burnt” is an olive green. Would you still call that burnt? Yes, it appears burnt to me, I think the green tinge you're seeing in the dark ribbons is from the overlapping of colors not actually green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carowill Posted October 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 42 minutes ago, Chad G. said: Yes, it appears burnt to me, I think the green tinge you're seeing in the dark ribbons is from the overlapping of colors not actually green. That’s reasonable but, red and blue make purple, at least with pigments. I appreciate everyone’s input!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted October 11, 2022 Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 Imho..correct me if I'm wrong .from the reacearch I have done. I am under the impression that glass reacts differently than mixing colors, I think it gets thin and transparent .then covers the base glass . Like looking through stained glass to outside weird colors arise...I could be way off 📴...just what I got from deep dives 😂 Great discussion 👍 What an awesome Pelt just beautiful 🤤💥💥💥😲🤯 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carowill Posted October 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, Tommy said: Imho..correct me if I'm wrong .from the reacearch I have done. I am under the impression that glass reacts differently than mixing colors, I think it gets thin and transparent .then covers the base glass . Like looking through stained glass to outside weird colors arise...I could be way off 📴...just what I got from deep dives 😂 Great discussion 👍 What an awesome Pelt just beautiful 🤤💥💥💥😲🤯 Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted October 11, 2022 Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Tommy said: Imho..correct me if I'm wrong .from the reacearch I have done. I am under the impression that glass reacts differently than mixing colors, I think it gets thin and transparent .then covers the base glass . Like looking through stained glass to outside weird colors arise...I could be way off 📴...just what I got from deep dives 😂 You`re not way off - you`re right on! When hot glass of one color meets hot glass of another color, you can sometimes get a chemical reaction (usually a dark line, brownish line, "burnt" appearance) but there`s no mixing or blending of colors, as with pigments. As you say, you might sometimes get a slight overlap, or overlay, which may give the illusion of a blend - but it`s not one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 This is a great thread. Here’s my question. How come the only marble IDs that include the word/trait Burnt are Pelts ? I think it had to do with the sand they used. Come now! Who can think of another Burnt marble that isn’t a Pelt. Come on….rack your brain. 🔥 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 Glass colors do not mix or blend to make a new different color like paint does. Jabo had a few tons of burnt colored marbles. DAS made a few hundred pounds of them Monday. Started with opaque white base glass and cooked it high enough temp. and long enough that it ended up clear, then brown and finally translucent black. It has nothing to do with sand. It is temperature control. Many dark brown colors started as red. Burnt color is a Peltier collector trait, not a marble trait or company trait. When a unusual color shows up on Peltier marbles, and it is not understood why ? It is called burnt. Not a mistake or error, and that way the value stays up for it. A burnt Christmas Tree with dark brown ribbons to almost black, many times will sell for the same as, what a pure white base red and green Christmas Tree sells for. Burnt colors are a mistake or error. and with about every marble except Peltier's, worth a lot less than what was intended to be made. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 What Ron said, as usual ^^^^. Just my personal opinion, and not a fact, is that some Peltier glass had a little more chemical reaction with certain colors than some other marble companies` did, resulting in the more often "burnt" appearance here and there. However, if you look closely at a lot of Akro two-color or multi-colored corks, you will often find a thin dark "eyeliner" of color, which I once heard a collector try to explain as a difficult effect never mastered by anyone but Akro. I confess I nearly spit my coffee onto my keyboard. It`s the chemical reaction effect, just on a very much more minor scale. And usually attractive. Take a good look at some of your multi-colored corks next time you have them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peltier Mibber Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 On 10/11/2022 at 10:33 AM, akroorka said: Not a "Tricolor" a National-Line-Rainbo. Good coverage for a smaller sized one for sure. Just a Killer marble--Thanks for sharing it!! Marble--On!! X2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagocyclist Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 14 hours ago, wvrons said: DAS made a few hundred pounds of them Monday. Started with opaque white base glass and cooked it high enough temp. and long enough that it ended up clear, then brown and finally translucent black. What an incredible transformation!! I find it amazing that it goes clear in the process. I would have expected opaque white to brown and then black but it goes to clear and THEN ends up translucent black? It keeps its translucency even while being "burnt"? Oh man, that's incredible, that's incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroorka Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 Here is a “burnt” Vacor—just sayin! Marble—On!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 Yep. It can happen anywhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 To bad there’s not a Pelt Burnt Hotdog or Marsh Mellow. 🔥 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 Interior house paint can not be mixed in a traditional manner. Most colors are a mix of 3-5 pigments. Even white. So if you try to mix white to lighten up a darker color it won’t work. By doing so you are actually trying to mix 12-15 pigments together. There’s a formula on the back of every color chip that is basically the recipe for that color. So in this case yellow and blue will never make green. I think this type of “chemistry “ is similar to glass. At least that’s where I’m at in this thread. 🔥 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 I think I’ll throw this Vitro in the mix. My marble gut tells me this could also be an example of a Burnt /Color 🔥 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad G. Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Fire1981 said: I think I’ll throw this Vitro in the mix. My marble gut tells me this could also be an example of a Burnt /Color 🔥 Don't know about burnt but fer shur looks like another "spit shine" job ... ... hadda throw that one in for ya 🔥 I spotted the dribblins ..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 I agree 100% with Ron. These marbles you see in this pic were supposed to be a white base. Nope, the white base glass from the furnace got too hot, turned clear, and continued to get too hot and turned dark trans red, then almost black like coca-cola. I just got home from this run and witnessed it. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 But some beautiful marbles came from that run anyway, here are some. See those oxbloods on clear glass? That was white glass when it got shoveled in. All the base glass on these was white and yellow glass when it went into the tank. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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