Chuck G

Some folks asked about (large) akro popeye patches. Chuck G---

Bobby, welcome to the forum, super nice information here to learn from. Chuck G---

Vance, kinda looks pelt to me also. Peltier was super notoriously for having some very wild cut or seams to their examples. (ALL) marbles have (TWO) cut lines, however i have found (what looks) like three cut lines. One MUST analyze the (glass flow) and study it more. Glass flow, cut lines, and color formulas is very important to understanding who actually made the example. From one marble maker to the other, glass formulas and machines could produce something pretty wild, and yes wild and different is out there. Get it in your mind to analyze all this and the more marbles you get thru those fingers the more you will see and get a huge grasp of things. In all my years of this hobby, could not even guess HOW MANY examples i have had go thru these hands. Chuck G--

Mibs, very nice example. A friend and i was lucky enough to purchase some 16th and 17th century dug items from Europe and this (real early) stuff resembles this Earthenware. I must say, all this stuff no matter what it is fun to discuss. Most collectors here seek the early American Toy examples of this type of Earthenware. Chuck G--

Dindo, an Ace example will have a (translucent) whitish base, some example a deeper translucent than others, almost to an opaque, you can get some light thru the translucency base. St Marys cats eyes will for most part have the internal vanes a (cross thru) look to them, some may be wavey a little also. Take your hands and close them flat, fingers all together, then hold one on top of the other, this is what a St Marys will look like. St Marys did make some really super nice cats eyes. I will add also with the Ace factor in akro that some akro did have colored Ace base glass. Some may consider this (NOT) an ace but i would, but that is me. Chuck G--

I find this quite often, and (for me) as having many discussions with Ron S that it is just air pockets from a bad chemical mix that was not compatible to the desired example. I would NOT think that any metallic component would stay in an air bubble per say and not float to the surface. I have yet to find what i could deffinitly say is a metallic air bubble. Now these contemp makers could probably do this but the old machine mades would always float to the surface when it came to any metallic component. From akro to jabos i see what is considered metallic all are on the (surface), (HOWEVER) i will add this, (ANYTHING) is possible and may be found. Seeing a lot of these examples on the forums, it (seems to me) that a lot of these could be Kokomos when they started production. Making a theory and presumption is part of the hobby, but as i always say (PROVE IT) with an example. This will always make it clear for others. Chuck G--

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Dave, "humor" is what makes this hobby so much fun. Chuck G--

Galen, probably a six ribbon pelt from what i see. I have yet to see an MK swirl in two colors but they very well could be. The blue on yours is transparent and most MK swirls are the opaque colors. Her is a photo, top row, Mk swirls. Chuck G--

Agree, "AKRO" kinda in the "Royal" family type Chuck G--

Everyone is very correct and it is good to see the west getting in line with the east. These are few terms that the newbies may want to remember and study when it comes to the pelts. Flip-Flop, Bifurcate, Cris-Cross, Cross-Thrus and Family types and so on. Learning generalized categories is just as good as names, it all helps the hobby. Chuck G--

Sitting here reviewing this topic and adding to it with a couple questions, they are. First, is the named marble "Green Fizz" an NLR or Rainbo and how much older? Second, in the "Sunset" family, does these examples carry the ribbons on the surface or inside the marble and or both. More knowledge and understanding is vital to this hobby. Chuck G--

A few "reds" of mine, a few splashes of other colors. Chuck G--

I can remember back in the early 70s, things were priced (VERY) reasonable. You could buy a quart of quality old vintage marbles with almost all maker sin it for less than a twenty dollar bill. Man, things have changed now. Chuck G--

Ann, i agree with your last comment. This is for Jerry, the pelt "Green Fizz" was named some years back when Marquee marble sold this specific one on e-bay. He named it and i was not aware of this example. Now where to and what family type to throw it into is someones else call. Her is my definition for this example. I think i posted this another time way back when. "Green Fizz"--a (clear) transparent bubbly base with internal white opaque ribbons, note:some examples may have edging or tracer like colors riding the edges of the white, plus it has internal green transparent (7up like) glass and it (MUST) be sumwhat florescent. Chuck G--

Hi Hansel, a fine subject to kick around and discuss. I will have to look in my group of the really old stuff from J Pator that i purchased from him and see if i can find one. Nice photos everyone. Chuck G--

I was always under the presumption that a "Cherry Bomb" has to have a translucent deeper red. I may be wrong on this so correct me please if i am. Having so many names its hard to remember them all, even for me. Chuck G--

Ann, very well said. I do have a few "Green Fizzes" so e-mail me and we can talk about one for you. "Blue Fizz" so far (notta), one i have yet to find and for it to meet my criteria, it may be impossible, (UNLESS) someone can show an example. It has to (HAVE) a blue transparent ribbon in it, but that is for me. Thinking about this, i do have a amber transparent ribboned one that i classify as in the "Fizz" family and also (i think) a purple one. They also have to have some florescent to them. Being placed into the "Sunset" family, let whomever choose what they may. Chuck G--

I know, and in my hearts desire for all, and in its future success in marble collecting we (ALL) want on the same page and for those who know me, that is the legacy us older folks want to leave. You are right all in fun times. Chuck G--

I see nothing wrong with a name per say, you were given a name when you were born, RIGHT!!! You are different than anyone else and you fall into a family group of your own. It would be a blessing to bring the west sumwhat in line with the midwest in all our discussions of marbles. This would really enhance the hobby tremendously for all. FACT, after all the Peltier factory was in Illinois. Let us all come togather in line with each other. We are all here to (BUILD) this hobby i feel. My opinion!! Chuck G--

Those who say this to me, i just grin great big and tell them if they have any, i will take them off their hands. Then i fthey want to carry the conversation farther, i tell them years ago when they shot their marbles in a sling shot, they just shot a $500.00 "Golden Rebel" out across the yard, very expensive ammo. Chuck G--

Steph, this could get into a (huge) discussion. So many collectors have their (opinions) on this family type and it may run into many many directions. "Sunsets" are a generalized family type to describe an overall group set by most collectors to fall into a certain described marble. So, to start, is it still a "Sunset" if the base is a colored transparent base? Do "Sunsets" all have outer vaneered ribbons or internal ribbons or both? Does a "Clear K&M" or "Clear Clown" still be classified as "Sunset"? For me and this is my (opinion), so do not hold it against me, that if the pelt has a defined name but just say that this is a "Clear K&M" that is in the "Sunset" family type. I (think) when Peltier produced the (named) box sets called "Sunsets" they may have had absolutely anything in the boxes, trying to keep the theme of the "Sunset" name. It is just a plain generalized category name. My thoughts and opinions. Chuck G--

Here you go, finally got it all done. Chuck G--

I would go akro also on this (uncorked) cork patch. Chuck G--

Hi members, just wanted to let a few folks know i have finished the Blackhawk indian cheif full bust wood burning art piece for Dave Becker, (1alleynut). I will get a photo and post later for those out west to see what i will give to him later. Chuck G--