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Last few Heaton bags

And this Heaton bag has odd cat's-eyes - simlar to Vitro hybrids - sorry, best pictures that I have and can't find the bag right away.

Some Heaton bags

Here are a few other CE Bogard bags - all real with the "seam" on the reverse of the bag.

For interest, CE Bogard stapled their headers over the Heaton headers after they bought the company. Here are some of those bags. I will post some other bags pics of CE Bogard also. Remember, there were some fake CE Bogard bags made by that guy out of Florida in the mid to late 1990's and he used MK cat's-eyes in those.

Nice

I'll be there also.

New post in the same thread. Sometimes you have to go clear out to the main forum and then come back in.

Not sure on true definition but it would seem that they would have to have some subsurface action in a transparent type base.

Here are a couple CA Submarines pics by Bill Tow (great picture taker)

That light blue one looks like we are getting into Vitro.

Yup

By coincidence, I had just pulled out a similar box to put in one of my display cases a couple days ago. Nice one!

Boy, I'm not sure on these as yellow jackets. Top one almost looks like the yellow is the red bleeding under the white. The bottom one looks just like a blackline All-Red.

Agreed

If basically the same all the way around with maybe a seam, it could be a Vitro Whitie but, as Steph says, more views would help.

Might be corkscrew on first one - both views you show are the same - maybe a different view?

Sad to hear. He mentioned some health problems when I talked with him at the Orange County Show in March. He was a great guy, champion weightlifter and had a variety of marbles. Condolences to his family.

The one I start my specific search for is under "Toys & Hobbies" - "Marbles" and has 17,508 listings

Will be there on Thursday - look forward to meeting many of you that I have not met in person before.

These "jobber" boxes were filled with a variety of marbles - a lot of time Champions but you find other ones in there also. No specific company name tied to this box as I recall.

That atmosphere bag is a good one for your category - definitely hard to find. Along the Vacor lines, for marble bags sold in the US, Qualatex was the predecessor company to Mega in marketing Vacors in the US. Their bags are definitely harder to find. What makes people overlook them (from a bag collectors' standpoint) is that their headers look just like the first style of Mega bag headers - basically Mega used Qualatex's style and changed the logo. In the upper leftt portion of the front of the header on these pictures, you will see the Qualatex logo instead of the more common Mega logo. The two types of marbles here - Glitter and Assorted Stelaris are definitely harder to find - 90's time frame

Steph is on point - hard to tell when MK Cat's were made. You can find a variety of MK's in those Peltier bags - cat's and even Rainbows.

Here are the other two pages on the fkae marble bags flyer from the mid to late 1990's.

They just "pushed" them out in bulk like the ones you show above. There are some sketchy Mr. Peanuts bags. If they are Alley swirls, very good likelihood of being legit. If they are older MK's with a BB or CS, same answer. If they have "Play the Game, Be Fair...." on the reverse, they are most likely legit. If they have "Play the Square...", that's where you have to look at the marbles and for the seam on the bag - that's where there may be some fakes. Amana - Des Moines Marble Show Article (9-25-13).doc