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I moved mine this last time in the large plastic tote bins maybe 20 gallons each. Most of the marbles were in bubble packs and display boxes. I had two pickup truck beds full of tote bins. Then we put several totes of Jabo marbles in a trailer. Most of the Jabos have found new homes over the last five years. When you get three to five 20lb. cases as a investor in a special run, numbers add up fast. I was a investor in about 60 to 100 of 165+ special runs at Jabo 2008-2012. This does not count the earlier Jabo classics I had since 1998 to 2008. I thought marbles would be small and not take up much room. That depends on how many you might have. Some collections are 100 marbles and some are a million and more, marbles. I was thinning my collection at marble shows. But this last past year and Covid stopped that for a while. Now back to more normal and to the marble shows .

The Jackson marbles that were dumped happened years after Carrol Jackson was out of the marble business. I know the man who dumped them. I worked with him while I was with Dupont. His name is Jack Ash, who worked for George Murphy. George had a Ford car dealership in the former Jackson marble building. Jacks first job about 1965-66 with Mr. Murphy was to dump seven 55 gallon drums of Jackson marbles in a ditch along the road across from the Ford dealership building then. Jacks next job was to cut open 50-100 cardboard boxes of two dozen mesh bags(each box)of Jackson marbles and dump them. They were used as fill where they poured concrete the next day for a garage floor. A later job Jack had was to cut open the last couple dozen boxes of mesh bags containing Jackson marbles. He dumped them along side of the building to be used as gravel for the cars to drive on. The majority of the marbles not under concrete have been dug and recovered. These are a lot of what is in collectors hands today. I probably was the first person several years ago to sell a red mesh bag of Jackson marbles on ebay. Jack ask to see the ebay listing and he almost fainted when he seen that one bag sold for $400.00. That was a few years back about 18 years ago. Those mint ready to sell marbles sat in the factory since it had closed until 1965. Then they were dumped in the ground. But many collectors have told me, all dumped marbles are bad, that is why they were dumped. It just tells me they do not know much about marbles. Every site has different reasons mint ready to ship marbles were dumped in the ground. I doubt a story about a Jackson delivery truck ending in a ditch. Carrol Jackson never had a delivery truck for marbles. Not many if any older marble companies had marble delivery trucks. Every older machine made marble Co. in WV had a railroad within probably 100 yards or less of the factory. The majority of all WV marbles were shipped by rail. I have some of the old original RR bills for marble shipments. There are stories of railroad boxcar derails and marbles spilled. But those are all also false. I walked many miles of RR tracks checking some stories. Which after a few years searching different leads, all were false. Carrol Jackson had big problems selling any of the marbles he produced. By the time he got in the business the market was flooded with marbles. He only lasted or produced marbles less than one year 1946. He did manage to sell a few of his marbles to local stores and people. The remaining Jackson marbles sat where they had been made until Jack Ash dumped them. The above is according to Carrol Jackson,s sons, George Murphy(deceased), Jack Ash, and local Pennsboro WV people, who remember the Jackson marble factory in operation. Now you know some more of the Jackson story. You decide but I have many doubts about a Jackson marble delivery truck. Very little(none)of the story makes much sense to me. None of it coincides with what I have been told and seen around WV machine made marble history. There is a long list of marble myths, some that will never go away in my lifetime. No matter what proof is given.

That will depend on who you ask. I know enough to get myself in trouble. Leave the WV swirls for me LOL ! More people need to collect Akro and Peltier. I have been known to get a few Vitro and CAC.

The Peltier John Deer marbles are a yellow base with green ribbons. Not the typical John Deere tractor colors of green base and yellow lettering.

Just help for the budding collectors.

Not positive what the second marble is ? Something about it just does not hit me hard for Akro.

The left green is Jabo. Champion did not make any marbles this large. The right marble blue and yellow is Alley.

I might be a newbie, sell me your WV swirls. Turn me into a Marble Head.

No, no, you need to collect Akro and Peltier marbles. Alleys are just junk WV swirls. None of them can be separated. They are all the same. Alley never used aventurine intentional. Alley flames look nothing like CAC flames. Alley used cheap glass. All dug Alley marbles are junk. They had to be bad in order to be discarded. I have never had a dug marble in my collection. Alleys first marbles were made at Sistersville WV. Alley made patch style marbles. Alley never made marbles over one inch size. Alley made children's dishes and flower pots for Akro. Alley made glass gear shift or steering wheel spinner knobs. Alley burned down the factory at St.Marys WV. Alley made marbles for a while in Europe. Alley made slags. Alley didn't make pee wee marbles. Alley's biggest money maker was his flame marbles. There are several or five or six Alley salesman sample sets. Alley put his name or company name on his marble packages.

The white base and blue is Alley.

X3 100% Akro.

Akro Popeyes requirements for most collectors, are to have a clear base(not translucent), wispy white(not solid) and two or more other additional colors. They can be a corkscrew or patch style marble. The second one is not a Popeye, not a clear base and not enough colors. By the picture the second one has no original added yellow color. The off white coloration is from some of the white at to high of a temperature. Not added yellow, but brown, tan, temperature to high for the white. The marble is two colors, translucent white and blue.

Now find the true red face ones and the 3/4 inch ones. Some also have oxblood in the stripe or face. They are also in the Fisher Jewel Trays.

This marble is probably Champion. I also posted there about the so called birthmark. Why it may happen with some marbles from every machine made company. Some companies more than others. I knew some people would think that every marble which had this splotchy metallic, birth mark would be from Ravenswood, which is not the case.

Heaton, Champion, Alley, Ravenswood, Cairo Novelty, Alox, etc.

Ravenswood, Champion, Heaton, Cairo Novelty, Alox, Master, Alley.

#1 = Alley 100% #2 = CAC #3 = Ravenswood #4 = Alley 100%

The number 9 pattern is usually from being hand gathered on a punty rod. The 9 twist is from the person turning the rod in the hot glass. In order to gather the hot glass on the rod. Several marbles can be hand gathered, modern contemporary, old German handmades, transitionals, MFC, Akro, CAC, Peltier, Leighton, Navarre, and more.

First one is Jabo or DAS, it is a new modern marble.

Also could be several Alox.

Red and white is hand gathered machine made, maybe CAC ? The second one is a machine made that did not spin correct in the rolls groove. DAS made a lot with this pattern. All machine made companies had these errors. Some more than others. It should be rough not smooth on the pole where it made the tight cork spin. The hot glass glob has to spin in all directions on its own axis in every grove of the marble machine rolls. If not the cork spin will happen on one pole or both poles. It can be caused by the glob to large, to small, glass temperature off, roll speed wrong, glass build up on the rolls, spacing between the rolls off, etc. A error, non standard production.

Looks Cairo Novelty for sure to me. Especially when it also glows. It has all the Cairo traits. Seedy glass, weak color, snake, S or C pattern , the white glows, rolls lines in the surface of the glass, all signs of Cairo Novelty.

Alley never ever made a patch type marble. If it is a patch, it is no Alley. Alley produced nothing but swirl style marbles.

The vast majority of two color transparent WV swirls cannot be separated by company accurately.

Akro made almost no swirl as standard production. These two color WV swirls can be difficult. Many cannot be separated by companies accurately. To many companies made them so near alike or the exact same. Those with what looks like oxblood have a good chance of being Heaton. It is not true oxblood but marron color Vitrolite cullet. Champion, Cairo, Jackson, Ravenswood, Alley, Heaton, and others made millions of these green and white transparent swirls. They are found in high numbers and difficult to identify, so they have very little collector value.