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My favorite for sure.

Look Vitro to me.

I have no doubt at all that Peltier produced white feathered slags. Peltier made the more normal hand gathered slags. I see no reason why they would not have made white. I am not expert on identifying Peltier slags other than the feathered slags. Gino B. was good at it. He pointed out a few for me in some of my marbles for about three years at Decatur. I had three hand gathered Peltier slags, not the feathered slag. One brown, one green, and a dull yellow. I have had a couple box sets of Peltier Cerise slags. Some are red and white and some are more orange and white. So Peltier used white in making two or three different style slags.

Alley swirl.

Ravenswood ?? Vitro

Wish they were mine. These are just a few of Nola Morgan's Vitro marbles. At one time Vitro was her second favorite to collect. It would be difficult to find a Vitro that she does not have numbers of.

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Sure is.

I am also neutral about figure 8 or some Peltiers. Because I have no good evidence as to who or where they were made. Some I have problems were to place it, Peltier or figure 8 ? I am aware that good numbers have come from Germany, Europe, Japan, Canada. But myself, Nola and others have found these steady at most marble shows. Most people ask me is this a Peltier ? Do I have it in the right group ? I do not put high confidence in placing them with a certain company or place just because many of that group are from a certain company. I had it and seen it fail to many times to be reliable for me. It is a factor but not high for me. Nola recently bought a dozen from me that I had picked up in groups of other marbles the last year or so. This has been steady with me for at least 15-20 years. I have never bought one from Canada, Europe or outside the USA. Maybe people just add them in with their lower value Peltiers and they do not get attention ? I have always wondered why could they not be made by Peltier ? They are very close to Peltier four ribbons types. The colors would fit Peltier, the base glass, will fit Peltier. The ribbon pattern could easily fit with Peltier. Not all the ribbons on any companies marbles stayed in line or the exact same all the time. I just have a long list of unanswered questions yet. Are the from Peltier or some one else ? I do not know. So if you want to call it figure 8 or call the same marble Peltier, that is fine with me. If the four ribbons join together near the same point at the cut line. I agree that they are called figure 8's. But the problem happens when the four ribbons do not join near the same point and have space between at the cut line. Where is the point of how much space that a Peltier four ribbon marble becomes a figure 8 ???? I have no way of knowing if any were dug at Peliter ? I have not seen big numbers, I mean buckets dug from the Peltier site. If they were dug they would they be sold as Peltier or figure 8 . Did the digger put them in his collection as Peltier ? Did the digger sell or trade it someone and never tell then that it was dug at Peltier ? Just lots of unanswered questions yet and my thoughts. Good discussion, but figure 8 always is. Your choice were they are placed in your marbles. But things can and do change with new, more or better information. A marble collector should be willing to change as time goes by. I have change many marbles in my collection every year for 25 years from one company or maker over to a different one. New, more or better information and it may end up in a different display case next year ?

Akro patch. Akro's like these are what caused the confusion for years as to which company made the named style helmet marbles .

Those are top shelf marbles to be proud of.

You are welcome. It brings back good memories of people now gone. I cannot ever pay them back enough.

From what I see, yes. Alley swirls made at the Pennsboro WV location.

Mr. Bill even ran that excavator digging marbles. He is standing right about where he later with Sammy Hogue, laid a Alley Carnival down and the later could not find it. So many memories !!!!!!!!! Happy tears.

Jack Bogard and his father made marbles at the old Heaton factory. Until his father passed Jack was the semi truck driver. Then he got the company. I talked with Jack many times over the years. A long story how we finally met. Sad but I received news that Jack passed away not to long ago. Jack eventually was half and then a third partner of the Jabo Co. I am not positive Jack made any swirl marbles while at the Heaton site. He did have a hand in some swirls for Jabo. At the old Heaton site Jack made industrial marbles, four vane cat Eyes that are very difficult to separate from MK. He also made banana cat eyes there. some of the green ones are very difficult to separate from Peltier. Jack did not like making swirl marbles. Because he was not very good at it. His main production at the Heaton site was, Industrial marbles, four vane Cat Eye's, Game marbles, and the banana cats. Jack was good at making the industrial marbles. Of course that is what he wanted to make all the time. I have a lot of stories around Jack Bogard. He owned the last set of(which I knew of)Ravenswood marble machine rolls. He ran them one time at Jabo but they were way to slow to make any profit with. Jack Bogard owned the Vitro Agate trademark. Jack never made any marbles(intentional)where the cut lines showed . No one or two seam cut lines on standard production Bogard marbles. Jack repackaged Heaton swirls with his on label and or his label stapled over top of the original Heaton label. Jack Bogard played a big role in machine made marbles for many years. Chuck(cheese)has some nice history items of Bogard. Some of Jack Bogard banana Cat eyes. Any package of these is rare.

A figure 8 has four ribbons on the surface. The ends of the four ribbons come together at the cut on each side or half of the marble making a 8 pattern. I don't know that anyone ever found proof who or where these were made. The colored ribbons make a 8 pattern. With a Peltier Baseball pattern the ends of four ribbons meet at the cut on each side. But they curve like the threads on a base ball. The ribbon ends do not go towards each other to meet together almost to a point at the cut line on each side or half of the marble like the figure 8 does.

What a surprise ! Tankgrrl is here. Maybe Nan.com will show up ?

I agree ! Maybe foreign for #2 ?? Maybe toss up on #3 Vitro or Akro ???